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  1. #11
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    Larirawiel's Avatar
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho2010 View Post
    There are programming decisions that are made due to a lack of digital "keys" when it comes to making things account wide versus single character only items.
    Hihihi, it still somehow overhelms my imagination how ... and WHY they programmed systems which can run out of digital keys. That is really weird. And it binds ressources to implement those systems. But replacing them with better systems should not be very difficult.


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  2. #12
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    Calamity J'aina
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puksi View Post
    The answer, as always with $quare, is $$$$.
    Oh no! Capitalist company doing capitalism!
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  3. #13
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    That seems a bit misleading. Certainly if you read the fine print you might catch that you're unlikely to get it, but the fact that it's like MINION MINION *lottery sounds* *coins falling to the ground* MINON MINON.... small print: btw you can't get this anymore... is not good lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by RicaRuin View Post
    Aside from the surrealism of a digital Item being limited, I think it's a real bummer that the bonus items are now limited to one character when they used to be account wide. Just... why? I already have a code, what prevents them to give the item to all characters, as it clearly was possible some years ago...?
    The reason given was that it takes up memory to allocate to an entire account and they reserve that for more valuable stuff in the shop, they can't make it all account wide because of that. Not that I love that answer lol, just I recall that is what they've said about that before. (So expensive mounts are almost always account bound).

    I don't really mind temporary FOMO, for people that gotta have it now and feel special or whatever, but I am strongly against permanent FOMO.. I think after X time, which should just be a hidden rule written down somewhere, that it will be brought into cash shop or something. Permanent FOMO in a digital piece of work is just like.... .. WHY.. ... The place that we can be the most wealthy and sharing and we're over there duplicating all the silly woes of real world. Of course some of those are built into our circuits of reward value (I have something they dont have, must mean I'm special.. type stuff), but I feel the digital world is where we can be better than reality. Not worse lol.

    Say something like- music comes out at $40 for pre-order plus bonus pet. Then at release the price is increased to 45$ until the minion code stock runs out and the price is reduced to $35. 1 year later, after the last code is sold, the item is added into the cash shop for $10 (or there is a re-run, but should consider allowing those who purchased the disk minion-less to 'upgrade' then like a collectors edition like concept we have).
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    Last edited by Shougun; 02-26-2022 at 03:09 PM.

  4. #14
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    Thea Sitori
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    OSTs have always been FOMO going back to ARR. I get asked several times a year where I got my Dalamud minion in-game.

    One should learn by now that any FFXIV merch that goes on-sale in the store or at fanfest, there is a risk it doesn't get reproduced for a long time or ever again. Obvious things like OSTs and lore books do come back, without special includes.
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  5. #15
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    Yxiah Eruyt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galchenyan View Post
    I bought HW soundtrack a year ago and learned the hard way that minions are not included after the first batch. But they are still HIGHLY advertised on the product pages and they you get corporate responses about the fine print. Very insulting already, but then I come across a reddit post where someone in the same situation as me, who did the same thing as me, actually got a code while i didnt! https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...a_minion_code/ And now support won't give me one 'because my order is too old' this is all extremely irritating and could so easily be avoided if you just removed the minions from the product pages entirely once they are out of stock or something.

    Please be considering of your customers and not just money grabbers. I won't even go about why the hell are codes even temporary.
    Ouch. Sorry to hear that!
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  6. #16
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    Forgiven Dolor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poporito_Popoto View Post
    Oh no! Capitalist company doing capitalism!
    I bet you love microtransactions and games split into multiple DLCs too. Or $200 statues that look like they were made of fondant.

    If you can't see the problem with a company artificially limiting a digital product, and then also limiting it to one character where it was once all characters, I can't help you.

    If you can't see the problem with a company claiming technical issues prevent more free inventory space to handle their self-made item bloat, yet have no issue whatsoever selling monthly rental of more inventory space, I can't help you.

    If you can't see the problem with a company charging Fantasias for haircuts for a single race because they intentionally welded the hair to the faces, I can't help you.

    If you can't see the problem with a company paying lip service about taking breaks to avoid burnout, but only as long you keep your sub going to avoid losing your ingame house, I can't help you.

    But boy, I am sure that company appreciates your money.
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    Last edited by Puksi; 02-26-2022 at 02:13 PM.

  7. #17
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    Talitha Solarien
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    Odin
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    The answer to this is "japanese culture". SE isn't by far the first and only company to include special bonus items for the CD/DVD/BR/etc stuff. Ghibli was famous for that when they started releasing their DVD's for the first (those were physical items like small bags, film stills, etc).

    Still, they should update the store descriptions for old items to remove the mention of those item that are no longer included.
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    People are complaining about artificially limited digital items, but it's literally the same for physical products. Unless said product contains rare metals, stones, textiles, (even food sometimes)... Basically not the usual plastic we get in collector/limited products, as good as they may be done and support the devs.
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  9. #19
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    Maetimoht Berkbraena
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    lImITeD TiME DiGiTaL iTeM. Makes sense, doesn't it? You know all the manufacturing they have to do, material cost, etc. It's not as simple as just generating a code, is it? That'd be crazy!
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