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    Player Kolaina's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    If you vote kick because they are not pulling enough (IN YOUR OPINION) and otherwise doing their role and not being disruptive, and you can still clear the content - this is still an infraction for which you can be reported. You may want to review.

    https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...5382&kid=68216

    Unjustified usage of Vote Dismiss
    Refers to the act of dismissing a player in a way that is unjustified under the intended use of Vote Dismiss.
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    If a report has been filed and the prohibited activity is confirmed, a penalty will be issued.

    Please note that Square Enix may conduct investigations and issue a penalty in its discretion even if a report has not been filed if the act was confirmed publicly through online video, streaming services, or other means.

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    The spirit of these rules is to create a welcoming environment for the game's playerbase, and that includes people with less skill and differing playstyles. As far as I'm aware, "Difference in playstyle" comes from 6 years ago - and these prohibited activities supplanted that.

    If you are unaware of why you can vote dismiss - here is an image of a vote dismiss: https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/w/images/f/f7/151712.png

    - AFK
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    - Cheating

    I don't see "difference in playstyle" anywhere.
    Difference of play style is a valid reason and gms use that reason. Like it or not, it’s good enough.
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    Zephyr Menodora
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    Difference of play style is a valid reason and gms use that reason. Like it or not, it’s good enough.
    If I'm ever vote kicked for "difference in play style" - I will report and let you know how true that is.

    Fortunately in game I'm always willing to try and compromise on requests, so hopefully I never personally have to deal with this. Some anecdotal reddit comments have suggested that the GMs do not view "difference in playstyle" to be enough today, and will investigate vote kicks for reasons like you suggest you'd use it for. Again, a more recent rule against this is specifically laid out in the more recent document.

    Here is one such comment from a reddit thread in 2019 about whether "difference in playstyle" is still valid:
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    I was vote kicked earlier today because the healer didn't like that I picked up 2 extra adds (the big dragons near the broodlings in The Aery) a long the way as the tank. I was literally level 55, so at level for the duty, and leveling my class. I got a very different response from the GM call that I made, after suddenly being kicked out of the duty mid-pull, than the one in that older thread so it's really not the end-all-be-all of how the GMs feel and I think people need to be aware of this. The support desk message I received talked about it being "possible abuse of the vote dismiss feature" and they also said "we acknowledge that there is still a possibility of this tool being used as a Grief Tactic.", they asked for more specific details, names, date/time, and anything that was said. I just got confirmation that they have enough to start an investigation, "in accordance with our policies", into abuse of vote dismiss and griefing tactics.

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    If you want to provide actual evidence that "difference in playstyle" is still valid, and that GMs will ignore the very document they released, I'd be interested to see it.
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    Last edited by ZephyrMenodora; 02-25-2022 at 07:58 AM.