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    SeverianLyonesse's Avatar
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    Severian Lyonesse
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    That's quite the uncharitable reading you're doing of Ofuda. No, there's actually nothing that a Western, cosmic fortune teller has in common with an Eastern, demon-cleansing spirit medium other than they use magic and they hold things.
    That's an overly charitable reading you're doing of a job that practically has the same weapon gimmick. Just because the lore behind tarot cards v. ofuda is different doesn't mean those animations look any less similar. If we get any sort of "ofuda" job, I do not see the devs going with "eastern-aesthetic AST" weapon animations like the ones you showed in that video. Paper-slip/card-wielding job is already taken.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tulzscha View Post
    Aren't paper talismans typically consumed on use (in video games anyway)? They could have something like a quill or brush for a weapon instead to draw sigils on magical paper or in the air or on the ground depending on the purpose. Maybe even incorporate some elements of Pictomancer to broaden the scope a bit.
    This kind of idea is more likely. Would actually be a refreshing spin on Pictomancer too. I still think not super likely because XIV has shown a preference for very weighty, dynamic weapon choices, but definitely an idea with potential.

    Also, "consumption on use," even if it were true, wouldn't be that different from drawing and playing cards. The difference between shuffling/cycling through cards and painting new ofuda is quite negligible when translated to mechanics.
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    Noah Orih
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeverianLyonesse View Post
    That's an overly charitable reading you're doing of a job that practically has the same weapon gimmick. Just because the lore behind tarot cards v. ofuda is different doesn't mean those animations look any less similar. If we get any sort of "ofuda" job, I do not see the devs going with "eastern-aesthetic AST" weapon animations like the ones you showed in that video. Paper-slip/card-wielding job is already taken.



    This kind of idea is more likely. Would actually be a refreshing spin on Pictomancer too. I still think not super likely because XIV has shown a preference for very weighty, dynamic weapon choices, but definitely an idea with potential.

    Also, "consumption on use," even if it were true, wouldn't be that different from drawing and playing cards. The difference between shuffling/cycling through cards and painting new ofuda is quite negligible when translated to mechanics.
    Um, wouldn't Pictomancer using a large brush, by your logic, make it the EXACT SAME JOB the same as BLM, WHM, DRG, WAR, and RPR since we already have 5 versions of the same job that uses a two-handed weapon that has a shaft? If it wasn't for the different job icons, I wouldn't even be able to tell the difference between any of these jobs, smh

    No, AST is really nothing like what an Onmyoji is in literally any conceivable way, and just because you come on and plaster your own disingenuous reading of a job doesn't suddenly change that fact. I get it. You don't like the job idea, but that doesn't mean you can just parade around a blatantly false narrative and pretend like you're the one who sees the real cosmic design at play. If you're not interested in the thread topic, then there's no reason to keep polluting it with constant dismissals.
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    Last edited by ty_taurus; 02-24-2022 at 03:33 AM.