Ishgard Housing No Lottery For Wards

[Seraphor]

"No chance of a house", huh? So all those Empyreum houses will stay completely empty because no one can ever win a lottery. Right?

Or does that simply mean that everyone will now have an equal chance? And you won't have an advantage that increased your own chances?

How many lotteries have you won?

[Puksi]

There needs to be a demolishing timer.

Not according to Yoshida himself back in the day, and a switch to instanced housing would solve this entirely. There are f2p MMOs with a far better housing system (and houses) than this allegedly more successful subscription based model. The "neighborhood feel" also loses allure with a quickness when neighbors act like the ward is a HOA.

If it doesnt exist house plots will keep building up and up and up. There are people who would buy a house and quit and you have a permanent house taking up server space permanently.

They worked for that house, they earned that house, it's no one's business what they do with that house. This game can't claim to "value player time" with this system, yet allegedly, Yoshida wants us to take breaks when we are burned out. Since it's usually dedicated players who work towards a house, there's also a very good chance a MIA player could be suffering a hardship, but muh pixels, amirite? And, again--

Due to this desired plots will never be free either, imagine if you had free picking everyone picks the big house near the beach so you'll end up with 10k wards where everyone owns the same house, maybe several times because they want one on their alts too.

--they've limited housing to one per account. Not character, not server, one per account. Only the grandfathered have more, and new wards wouldn't generate until a ward is full. The need to cherry-pick so-called "better" locations is just another design flaw, like punishing apartment owners in the gardening department.

This system remains just a ploy to keep people tied to their sub, and all it causes are ghouls who care more about a pixel house opening than the players who worked for them.

[Rokke]

You're not devoted or tenacious if you get up at 4am to be the first to log into an MMO, you're hopelessly addicted.

Its no different from lining up early to get a good spot in a general admissions event. Unless you want to imply music fests or autograph signings are addictions too lmao

[Arazehl]

As I said in another thread, I will say it here.

"I think some haven't even experienced housing FCFS of the past. Go look at the archives of the post in the forums from previous housing launches. Players complaining about game crashing right as they loaded into the game, couldn't get through the queue at all even to try for a plot or the plots were all purchased within 10 minutes.
I would imagine 80% of the players will not even get a plot this round through FCFS and you'll be right back in these forums cursing the system you wanted to keep.

With the growth of the game over the past year, there are more players determined to get a plot which means that drops your chances of obtaining one FCFS, since they are converting many of them to a Lottery System. Even if they left them ALL FCFS, your chances will still be weak due to the same issues of past launches for housing and the growth in the player base. So I think the lesser evil will be the Lottery."

[AbysmalDuck]

How many lotteries have you won?

While I get what you are saying and making it solely about one's self, what the original poster meant was that someone has to win it. The house won't sit vacant. That is where the fairness is. The house will go to someone and out of all the people who put in a ticket, they all did the same amount of work. No more getting mad about the botter sitting there or the toxic person trying to place things in front of you clicking.

[Shibi]

No more getting mad about the botter sitting there or the toxic person trying to place things in front of you clicking.

Statistically, no more getting a house either.

[Krotoan]

Statistically, no more getting a house either.

You keep saying this.. with no basis in reality. Statistically you have a better chance of finding a house available with lottery over FCFS and your chances of getting that house are merely 1 in howevermany enter the lottery rather than the exceedingly unlikely statistics involved in either bumrushing the servers on release day or the clickfest we used to have.

The major difference is you cannot effect the chances with investment or scripts or client modding.

[Azuri]

Statistically, no more getting a house either.

Your chance may has gone down. But the chance of hundreds of other players who simply can't or even don't want to rush the district in the first 10 minutes or camp placards is now above 0.

[DeNada]

That still doesn't address the fact that if it were FCFS, you need to get up at ~4am on patch day to beat everyone else there including queues for login and for the instances, to get a house
That's still an unfair system and promotes people taking unhealthy measures to try to get an item in a video game. The FCFS system is bad and the lottery system is more fair for everyone.
Trying to frame it tenacity vs lazy people is a bunch of malarkey. You're not devoted or tenacious if you get up at 4am to be the first to log into an MMO, you're hopelessly addicted.

Well said friend, couldn't have been able to put it better myself.

[DeNada]

Also, let's not forget that people live in different time zones.

If I'm not wrong, the patch release timing for Europe is around 10am in the morning, which is basically when most people are either at work or school.

FCFS means what these people lose their chances at housing through no fault of their own. They can't even wake up at 4am to join the mad rush which happens on NA even if they want to, not that I'm promoting this unhealthy act mind you