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    For me, it is everything is not great, but I am happy.

    You can generally love a game and still point out where it can improve. While there is a lot of room for improvement, it's still the best MMO, imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApolloGenX View Post
    For me, it is everything is not great, but I am happy.

    You can generally love a game and still point out where it can improve. While there is a lot of room for improvement, it's still the best MMO, imo.
    I get that. I tried very hard to not sound like I am dismissive of those with valid concerns and negative feedback. After so much time in other games though, many of the complaints I see here feel so much like "first world MMO problems" though, that they are hard to take serious. At least this game isn't falling apart at the foundation.

    And I wanted to put up a positive experience. "Happy customers rarely post, but unhappy ones rarely stop."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume View Post
    I get that. I tried very hard to not sound like I am dismissive of those with valid concerns and negative feedback. After so much time in other games though, many of the complaints I see here feel so much like "first world MMO problems" though, that they are hard to take serious. At least this game isn't falling apart at the foundation.

    And I wanted to put up a positive experience. "Happy customers rarely post, but unhappy ones rarely stop."
    I happen to identify with many things the OP has stated, I also met and married someone from inside a MMO back in the early 90s. We were married for 12 years both gamers and played all MMOs together. Sadly he passed away in 2010. It was an awesome experience. I miss playing with him. Unfortunately my current partner is not a gamer but that's okay my generation grew up with out games and cell phones. Like the OP I have played every major and some minor western MMOs but have found this one special the story grabbed me and like the OP I rushed home to play it just one more cut scene. I know this game has faults and there is always room for improvement. What bothers me is seeing the nasty complaining, the insults. If people would state their problems without insulting I would respect their opinions but some here make it a mission to post complaint after complaint. So I would like to say I am enjoying myself and don't really have much to complain about. I hope to continue to enjoy myself thank you Yoshida P and the team for a great experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApolloGenX View Post
    For me, it is everything is not great, but I am happy.

    You can generally love a game and still point out where it can improve. While there is a lot of room for improvement, it's still the best MMO, imo.
    While I often come of as critical this is pretty much my stance on it.

    I criticize the game because I do love it but know it has a lot of bad spots that need improved but this dev team has lost it's way on a lot of things.

    Success has given them ego.

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakbeat View Post
    - 35,000,000 people do this thing.
    - 2,000 people appear grossly unsatisfied
    - In our infinite wisdom, "Everyone's angry about this thing!"
    You do realize that's literally the basis of statistics right? BTW, The total is a bit over a million active players when it comes to FFXIV

    Take a sample of something and show if it is a trend or not. A sampling of 2000 people, with an accounting of bias, is a statistically valid sample.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 02-23-2022 at 04:12 AM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Take a sample of something and show if it is a trend or not. A sampling of 2000 people, with an accounting of bias, is a statistically valid sample.
    It really isn't unbiased though since in the case of a forum that sample is made of people that went out of their way to talk about something they see as an issue. You take something like the summoner rework, people that are happy or just ok with it don't have any reason to say anything about it while people that are unsatisfied will search for a place to express their sentiment and might end up creating their thread or find one that did to add their voice to.
    You can't really use that as a metric for how many people are enjoying the new summoner. It's like taking a satisfaction survey through the refund hotline.

    If SE wanted a more accurate sample they would just do a survey at the connection screen like they did during the 1.0.
    Right now they seem to just use the forum to hear out complaints and use their own judgment to decide which point is relevant and which one is not. Considering the game keep steadily growing, I'd say they figured out what's the best course of action for their game despite the outcries of doomsayers on the forum anytime they announce something new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigiria View Post
    If SE wanted a more accurate sample they would just do a survey at the connection screen like they did during the 1.0.
    They don't even have to do that. Throughout our journey, we are asked on at least a couple of occasions if it was worth it, and if it has been fulfilling. The thing is, the question is not asked in search of a response from you. It's reflective and meant for you to determine the value of the time you have spent with FFXIV. That includes your time on the official forums as well.

    The way I see it is that to create something that becomes so massive that you can assign an AI to ask a perplexing question to the targeted demographic about the time spent in their world is a marvelous feat within itself. A survey of player satisfaction can't provide any kind of reliable accuracy that could contradict what they already know. They know they have a good thing going on with FFXIV, and they also know that it can continue to be improved upon.
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