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    Player EaraGrace's Avatar
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    Eara Grace
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SpectrePhantasia View Post
    Hmm yes, today I will:
    -Shatter a man's home's destroying it utterly and completely
    -Erase the history of his people from the world, there being no recording or recollection of it anywhere but in his memory
    -Obliterate each and every person that he knows, splitting them across 14 different worlds
    -And subject him to viewing the short, short lives, of people who require more sustenance to survive, and kill each other for reasons I know he will find inane.

    Are you honestly going to cling to the idea that Emet doing what he did in retaliation wasn't EXACTLY what she had intended? Look, you can believe whatever you want, I'm not going to go on pages with you like you do others, but while I admit there is guesswork in my conclusions, this is an Occam's razor situation. If they really wanted to sell Venat wanting diplomacy above all else, they would have shown her doing such with Elidibus, the heart of Zodiark who SPECIFICALLY withdrew himself from the primal for diplomacy, instead they had her plead with a bunch of nameless strawmen. It's too tough a sell to try to convince me of anything else here, sorry.
    Jesus why do we have to get so heated so quickly. I’m having a discussion and giving my viewpoint. Don’t like it, say I disagree. There’s no need to raise the temp.

    And on that you saw that he was not so unwilling to accept that necessity once he understood the full picture. We see in Elpis that he was willing to join us, we see in Ultima Thule that he at least understood Venats position. While he was still snotty about it, both Hythlo and Emet affirm their desire to see us onward, despite everything that occurred. He didn’t like it, he wasn’t happy about it, but he understood and even empathized with us, the people who killed him, in Venats name no less! Before that he even commends her! The woman who did all those things to him!

    Yes, I do believe if he remembered Elpis he would see Venats plan as the right one and while he may not like it he would work to see the star delivered from Meteions destruction. In an odd way, I left Endwalker with way more respect for Emet than I did going in.
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    Last edited by EaraGrace; 02-21-2022 at 02:29 AM.

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    Mikael Naeuri
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaraGrace View Post
    Jesus why do we have to get so heated so quickly. I’m having a discussion and giving my viewpoint. Don’t like it, say I disagree. There’s no need to raise the temp and yet it does I’m blamed for it.

    And on that you saw that he was not so unwilling to accept that necessity once he understood the full picture. We see in Elpis that he was willing to join us, we see in Ultima Thule that he at least understood Venats position. While he was still snotty about it, both Hythlo and Emet affirm their desire to see us onward, despite everything that occurred. He didn’t like it, he wasn’t happy about it, but he understood and even empathized with us, the people who killed him, in Venats name no less! Before that he even commends her! The woman who did all those things to him!

    Yes, I do believe if he remembered Elpis he would see Venats plan as the right one and while he may not like it he would work to see the star delivered from Meteions destruction. In an odd way, I left Endwalker with way more respect for Emet than I did going in.
    I'm not particularly heated? I guess that's just intent not coming out through text as well, so I apologize if I offended you with spicy wording. I was just being dramatic to make a point, nothing directed at your character. On your point, yes, Emet took his loss with a lot of grace, earagrace, if you will... (more than he realistically should have, for being foisted through hell for thousands of years, but I digress) but he still did not compromise on his ideals, and says as such. Giving a theater clap to Venat's strokes is one thing, saying there was nothing else to be done is another. I think it is giving him waaay more credit than he deserves to think that he would be on her side at this point. I mean, that's why she didn't tell him anything, right?
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    Last edited by SpectrePhantasia; 02-21-2022 at 02:37 AM.