the future of the game and of DUNGEONS

[aveyond-dreams]

I feel like the frontloading of gatherer/crafter content is what makes people feel that Shadowbringers had less content oftentimes-they pushed Ishgard Restoration heavily instead of battle content, with the first step of the relic being ridiculously easy and the decision to lock dyeable job AF gear behind an ex-trial being extremely unpopular among casual players. After Bozja released everything felt significantly better, though it was a long road getting there in the first place due to the schedule disruption.

[Imoye]

All of this extra content needs to be checked by the same 1 person (Yoshi-P) who was checking it when there was less content. There is no longer enough time for him to check all the content and he wants to avoid his team burning out from the increased amount of work they do now.

The less content thing has always been a myth. People put forth the claim all the time but never provide any numbers or proof.

[Kaurhz]

I feel like the frontloading of gatherer/crafter content is what makes people feel that Shadowbringers had less content oftentimes-they pushed Ishgard Restoration heavily instead of battle content, with the first step of the relic being ridiculously easy and the decision to lock dyeable job AF gear behind an ex-trial being extremely unpopular among casual players. After Bozja released everything felt significantly better, though it was a long road getting there in the first place due to the schedule disruption.

To be honest, it's a compendium of things. Between the frontloading of some very hefty content like Ishgard Restoration to the impact of COVID.. Which whilst it didn't impact the amount of content - Barring Dragonsong. It did give a sense that content was far more thinly spread, just due to the extra waiting time between patches.

Personally, for me Shadowbringers was one of the best in terms of content, but the issue never really was with the amount of content, versus the replay-value of said content. Taking Faux, for example. - That was a nice piece of content and a step in the right direction for some other systems, provided they could incorporate it. But ultimately all that it resulted in was a singular, patch-cycled trial that you could complete a couple times a week for a few rewards. Something like that could really have done with more substantial rewards and perhaps less of a strict approach to the weekly limit. Aside from that, really.. The loss of a deep dungeon (whilst compensated elsewhere) was just too big a kick in the nuts due to the replay value it had.

The less content thing has always been a myth. People put forth the claim all the time but never provide any numbers or proof.

It's just people taking the whole logic of..

Since P has less content, therefore, Q must also have less content. In this particular case it's people surmising that because we have less dungeon content, therefore everywhere else is seeing a cut, and disregarding areas where content was actually uniquely created. In reality the amount of content has never been an issue, just the simple fact that they've not managed to get the same replay-value from newly developed content as to what they might have done in the past, with Deep Dungeon, for example.

[LittleImp]

For the people claiming there is less content now than there used to be, SE very much disagrees.

Oh wow, the company directly involved in trying to sell me something disagrees with me about how much content there is, they must be right.

Patch 5.3 took over two months longer than 3.3 to release following the x.2 patch.

They intentionally chose one of the more scant patches from heavensward to compare against because if they used something like 4.3 the narrative they are trying to sell wouldn't work as well.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Oh wow, the company directly involved in trying to sell me something disagrees with me about how much content there is, they must be right.

Patch 5.3 took over two months longer than 3.3 to release following the x.2 patch.

They intentionally chose one of the more scant patches from heavensward to compare against because if they used something like 4.3 the narrative they are trying to sell wouldn't work as well.

I mean we literally lost an entire left side of gear this expansion lmao. Not to mention the increase in reused sets that they can’t even make dyable despite them making oh so much money lmao.

[KageTokage]

I'm feeling like we're probably not going to get a new Eureka/Bozja equivalent with resources going to the new content like the island sanctuaries and the Criterion dungeons.

Which would be unfortunate, because I mostly enjoyed the content between the large scale battles and the way they expanded on the world with the new zones and stories to tell.

[Poporito_Popoto]

I mean we literally lost an entire left side of gear this expansion lmao. Not to mention the increase in reused sets that they can’t even make dyable despite them making oh so much money lmao.

Good. Let them spend money on things that aren't ugly in the first place.

[kpxmanifesto]

Oh wow, the company directly involved in trying to sell me something disagrees with me about how much content there is, they must be right.

Lmao, yeah there's no conflict of interest there whatsoever. No way, not a chance. /s

[Vrankyl]

Oh wow, the company directly involved in trying to sell me something disagrees with me about how much content there is, they must be right.

Patch 5.3 took over two months longer than 3.3 to release following the x.2 patch.

They intentionally chose one of the more scant patches from heavensward to compare against because if they used something like 4.3 the narrative they are trying to sell wouldn't work as well.

It's almost as if 5.3 was being developed during an unprecedented pandemic at its worst or something. Funny how that happens...

[KizuyaKatogami]

It's almost as if 5.3 was being developed during an unprecedented pandemic at its worst or something. Funny how that happens...

It’s almost like they took an extra 6 months to make up for it, 3 going towards 5.3 itself and they themselves stating they were working at 90-95% efficiency before taking the delays. We were missing content in ShB before the pandemic even hit so stop using it as an excuse please. What’s the excuse for the missing gear and major reused gear this expansion? Still gonna blame it on the pandemic they delayed the expansion months for?