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    The one thing that I can't believe they told us is when asked again about what Azem was doing since they didn't help either side is a secret. Which can be seen as they don't know themselves. Or they have something planned but it's not fleshed out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    The one thing that I can't believe they told us is when asked again about what Azem was doing since they didn't help either side is a secret. Which can be seen as they don't know themselves. Or they have something planned but it's not fleshed out.
    So much this. I am unhappy that they left the answer up to individual headcanon. Thus really needs more discussion on the forums then it's getting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nav_Fae View Post
    So much this. I am unhappy that they left the answer up to individual headcanon. Thus really needs more discussion on the forums then it's getting.
    I actually think this is the right thing for them to do, and have argued for pretty much exactly this before.

    Azem is intended to essentially be our avatar in the world at that time. Becauze Azem is us, whatever view Azem takes in this is therefore implicitly the correct choice, because 'we' made it. However, Zodiark V. Hydaelyn is intended to be an dubious question with no clear right answer between them.

    You cannot have both an implicitly correct character and an unresolvable moral question within the same story, because then whatever choice that character makes becomes the right answer to a question that should not have one (including if Azem explicitly took neither side, which they didn't do; we don't know why they left the Convocation and we don't know why they didn't answer Venat). So, yeah, the right answer for the writers is to take Azem out of the equation, and leave it to us to answer what they're doing otherwise.

    Personally, my belief is that Azem is off solving other smaller but no less legitimate problems, because whoever comes out on top is going to want the world to be okay otherwise. If the Convocation come out ahead, they don't want to turn around and find out Amaurot burned down while they were busy, and if Venat comes out ahead she doesn't want to find out that the lives she's banking on got wiped out by a tidal wave ten minutes later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nav_Fae View Post
    So much this. I am unhappy that they left the answer up to individual headcanon. Thus really needs more discussion on the forums then it's getting.
    I don't know what my headcannon for the WoL would be, but from what little we know it just feels wrong that Azem would do nothing. Let alone anything that would seemingly go against how they've been portrayed.
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