Let's all brace ourselves for no healer mention in any capacity for the upcoming LL

[Dearche]

Considering SCH even already has a spell that converts shield into raw healing, it's not like they can't make SCH [and likely Sage] a more shield oriented, if not strictly shield healer, I think they just don't want to in fear of people claiming it to be way too difficult to play proactively (even though that's how the job is set up to be played but let's hide under the casual scapegoats), not to mention potential balancing shenanigans that I myself are too casual to think.

Also, a small yet relevant thing to take into account is that Consolation is a lv 80 ability, so unless you're playing on the current raid tier [Eden, ex trials, Nier raids], you don't even have it, meanwhile AST has its entire shielding kit as early as 60

I mentioned this in another thread, but it's possible to make shield healers about shielding missing health, rather than shielding above the cap as their basis. SE seems to be adamant about preventing us from being able to get high levels of eHP, but unless if your shields can be pretty strong, it'll generally feel bad to play a true shield healer.

This combined with maybe migrating HOTs to shield healers and pure healers just have high power and efficient normal heals with some other sort of limitation would make true shield healers both more interesting to play, and not too difficult for new players to pick up.

Hopefully for both neither gets gutted like they have been the last 2 expansions,.

There's barely anything left to be gutted at this point. Losing the DoT we've got will barely make a difference, though losing our Broil and equivalents will cause an immediate mass migration unless if SE includes a healing or support rotation just as complex and fun as some of the best DPS...that can be done at all times of a fight without feeling like we're just pressing buttons for the sake of being busy.

Personally, such a thing is close to impossible, and SE has repeatedly proven that they are terrible at making interesting and fun but balanced healers.

[Sebazy]

SE has repeatedly proven that they are terrible at making interesting and fun but balanced healers.

This ^

The overstretched job design team they have is clearly disinterested in putting any effort into healers and Yoshi appears to be entirely unwilling to hire. As good as an expansion as SHB was, E8S absolutely destroyed my love for healing in this game.

[SpiralMask]

unsure on the level of faux pas between starting another thread of the same topic or necroing the original but: it looks like it's about that time again folks!

time for another rousing game of [how shafted will healers be this liveletter]!
the LL Q&A collection thread has a great repository of healer questions and feedback--will they be entirely screened/ignored or softballed like last LL? will healers get more than a single slide collectively this time? another notice of "we know it sucks, we want it that way"? complete apathetic silence?

find out in... about 39-ish hours, give or take.

[Sebazy]

Expecting naff all TBH

WHM needs a bandaid potency bump at the very least but it’s enduring casual popularity will probably prevent it from even getting that.

[SpiralMask]

i hear WHM is also suffering on the MP side (and SGE is weird about it if your party isnt terrible as well, since you basically gotta overheal for secondary MP gain), so that'd be nice to see addressed

[Recon1o6]

Currently my question https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...tions%21/page8

is standing at the highest upvotes in both the english and japanese threads last I checked. I won't be able to view the stream as its 2am for me but I'm prepared to be ignored despite how good my points and concerns are as seems to be my lot in life.

I feel like a living example of the "Only Sane Man" trope these days between rl and gaming

[Silver-Strider]

There isn't enough copium in the world to give me hope for Healer changes.

[AFuzzyMu11in]

There isn't enough copium in the world to give me hope for Healer changes.

I'm fine with current healer except, I would like to see recitation/deployment simplified. Making recitation adlo deploy auto would be helpful. Also, making energy drain give 1% mana back.

[Valkyrie_]

Currently my question https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...tions%21/page8

is standing at the highest upvotes in both the english and japanese threads last I checked. I won't be able to view the stream as its 2am for me but I'm prepared to be ignored despite how good my points and concerns are as seems to be my lot in life.

I feel like a living example of the "Only Sane Man" trope these days between rl and gaming

Wow that's a great question, glad it got a ton of likes!
Hopefully devs will actually listen to us this time, especially if the JP community are in agreement.

Part of me feels like they won't ever listen to us, but they did revert bowmages back in the day after massive outcry, so miracles do happen sometimes.
But then again they were dps and we're......yeah...

[Silver-Strider]

I'm fine with current healer except, I would like to see recitation/deployment simplified. Making recitation adlo deploy auto would be helpful. Also, making energy drain give 1% mana back.

You've already admitted to being a lazy healer that can't be bothered to learn mechanics and would rather netflix and chill while doing roulettes than contribute to the group.