"You pull, you tank" is a bad mentality

[SturmChurro]

How things like this can be hand-waved as "bad play", is just funny.

[IckeDerTyp]

Yes and No!

[DiaDeem]

Unpopular Opinion:

No. Let the Tank do the dungeon at whatever pace they want. If they wanna rush and finish the dungeon in 3 minutes, totally go for it. If they're new, don't feel confident or are just having a bad day and honestly don't feel like doing more than one pull at a time, let them do that.

Don't pull extra mobs.

DPS/Healers rushing ahead for the sake of saving a couple minutes on a run is not only rude, but can be stressful. My rule of thumb is: Let the tank dictate the pace. Don't pull ahead, or you deal with it.

[Bjorn-Kobito]

When tanks do this and refuse to tank, I refuse to heal. A tank is NOT needed to do any of the dungeons in this game with normal pulls so if they only are willing to do small pulls I'd rather them just leave or kick me. For capstone dungeons they don't even need to push extra buttons for cooldowns since the healing requirements are a joke.

[SturmChurro]

When tanks do this and refuse to tank, I refuse to heal. A tank is NOT needed to do any of the dungeons in this game with normal pulls so if they only are willing to do small pulls I'd rather them just leave or kick me. For capstone dungeons they don't even need to push extra buttons for cooldowns since the healing requirements are a joke.

You are more likely to be reported, and have action taken against, for doing that, than the tank, as there seems to be a bias towards 'bad' play with many in this community. I'd say people get away with a lot of actual griefing, when it's hidden under this pretense. Unfortunate.

[Bjorn-Kobito]

You are more likely to be reported, and have action taken against, for doing that, than the tank, as there seems to be a bias towards 'bad' play, with many in this community. I'd say people get away with a lot of actual griefing, when it's hidden under this pretense. Unfortunate.

Just soft grief back and stay silent in the chat. That's what I do. I refuse to play with people who are bad even if it costs me more time. It is very hard for GMs to get you if you stay cool in the chat. The last expert roulette I had where a tank refused to pull off of me I told them the "select" key was broken on my controller and I accidentally closed the pop-up for the return prompt so I couldn't respawn and revive after dying.

"Hey healer, you can tank if you want to pull"
*No response*
"Hey, are you really just going to AFK?"
-- "Sorry! My controller's select key doesn't work and I accidentally closed the return prompt to revive.... you guys will have to kick me. I don't have a mouse or anything to click it :/"

[Denji]

Ironically, not taking aggro as a tank (regardless of who pulled) does indeed violate that exact paragraph of ToS

The tank not then taking pull may also be against it, but that doesn't invalidate that the initital pull is against the tos.

I don't know why people use whataboutism as an "aha, gotcha!" when it... doesn't actually invalidate the original poster's point.

[ErryK]

pull what you want to pull, tanxiety isn't real and w2w pulls are the norm, baby pulls are the exception. my 2 cents.

[KariTheFox]

if you pull ahead of me when i am tanking - i give you a gold star for managing to get ahead of me, then pull aggro off of you and continue clearing the mobs

dps, please run ahead more. makes things spicier in my expert roulettes. i can even throw heart of corundum on you so you can absorb a round of autos from the pack you pulled before i catch up

[hydralus]

Y'know a great solution to not being 'slighted' for DPS/healers pulling ahead of you is to pull to the wall so they don't have a chance to. I mean I guess those of you who just don't WANT to can enjoy being angry if it does happen to you, but just saying it's easy to fix. Certainly never had it happen to me.