Caster balance - Progression jobs vs speed

[Dyvid]

In regards to the main thrust of this thread, can we please stop demanding that Verraise be put on the sacrificial altar every time BLM pulls ahead of the other casters?

But the thread isn't about RDM or SMN doing less damage than BLM, it's BLMs being asked to change to RDM or SMN because of raise.

[Gruntler]

But the thread isn't about RDM or SMN doing less damage than BLM, it's BLMs being asked to change to RDM or SMN because of raise.

This would continue to happen without raise, because of BLM's unique 'Turret' playstyle. So long as that exists, BLM will always feel like an outlier compared to stuttersteplord RDM and 'I'm only technically a caster three times per minute' SMN.

[MrJPtheAssassin]

This would continue to happen without raise, because of BLM's unique 'Turret' playstyle. So long as that exists, BLM will always feel like an outlier compared to stuttersteplord RDM and 'I'm only technically a caster three times per minute' SMN.

I don't think you can call the current BLM a "turret" anymore with the amont of movement tools they have now. Do they still have to cast more than rdm and smn? Yes, but let's not fool ourselves here. BLM doesn't really have to stand still for long periods of time anymore. I just don't think you can call them turret mages anymore. I still think removing or nerfing/rework the caster rez would help balance the role some since right now there is a balancing problem in the caster role compared to all the other roles. As the OP said you don't see any of the melees switching to sam after prog is over but you do see smns and rdms switching to blms after they cleared a fight. Shoot you see smn switching to rdm during prog in this expac since rdm is slight stronger in the utility department and begins the same dps(I know I did since smn isnt in a good spot right now despise what others have said.)

[Gruntler]

I don't think you can call the current BLM a "turret" anymore with the amont of movement tools they have now. Do they still have to cast more than rdm and smn? Yes, but let's not fool ourselves here. BLM doesn't really have to stand still for long periods of time anymore. I just don't think you can call them turret mages anymore. I still think removing or nerfing/rework the caster rez would help balance the role some since right now there is a balancing problem in the caster role compared to all the other roles. As the OP said you don't see any of the melees switching to sam after prog is over but you do see smns and rdms switching to blms after they cleared a fight. Shoot you see smn switching to rdm during prog in this expac since rdm is slight stronger in the utility department and begins the same dps(I know I did since smn isnt in a good spot right now despise what others have said.)

Are speedrun comps still altering strats to fit entirely around their BLM so the BLM can keep casting? Yes?

Then yeah, it's still a Turret Job making weird Turret Job things happen.

And the reason you don't see melee switching over is mostly because LOLRPR things.