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  1. #11
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    Kaurhz's Avatar
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteWitch View Post
    This is a fair point but how many people are really running level 60 savage version of that fight nowadays ? I could see this logic in more current content ..
    Not many people would be running them, but if they have prog'd the fight in the past for a significant amount of time then the chances are they would have a good recollection of the mechanics.

    But if I were to be frank, it's probably leaning more towards the - People don't like dying so they make excuses vibe
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteWitch View Post
    This is a fair point but how many people are really running level 60 savage version of that fight nowadays ? I could see this logic in more current content ..
    Some of the level 60 savage content is the fastest way to get the light for the level 60 relics. Even when unsynced back in StB you would see some of the mechanics that are handled differently than in normal. So if they were used to doing that, it's likely the reason.
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  3. 02-09-2022 10:52 AM

  4. #13
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteWitch View Post
    If you happen to pull up partyfinder randomly, you might see people running "expert roulette" with a tank and 3 dps.
    Yes, which means you need an extra DPS to counter the fact that your tank is on a time limit for each pull. However if you just yoinked the healer from the normal , as designed, dungeon run, you have to play perfectly (and with maxxed stats) to not need a healer. "People can do this if they play by broken rules" isn't an indicator the content isn't balanced or thought out. There is an incredibly broad spectrum of skill levels and engagement considered for the glut of the content. The current holy trinity covers this. Do you WANT to not have any other options? Is a game only designed well if the rigid defined way the devs want you to pass content is the only way?


    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteWitch View Post
    Do dungeons need to be brainfood content? Well, we ARE playing this for gameplay right? Or is this VRCHAT? Most of the combat in this game is instanced ..soo.... i'm not saying they need to be crazy hard, just not faceroll easy. And there's probably too big of a skill change from dungeons to savage.
    Everyone is not you. Lots of people find the dungeons at least engaging. If it's too easy for you there are harder things available, however the majority of the player base doesn't seem to engage in it.. so maybe that level of challenge is not what they're after?

    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteWitch View Post
    And yes, i did assume, but used multiple bases to make that assumption. Either way i dont really care anymore because ill never see that person again and probably not play this game anymore so//shrug/
    You used one line of text to make that assumption really.

    Bummer you're giving up though. There is a lot more to this game than what you seem to have covered. However I do hope you find a game you like and that entertains you fully. There are a TON out there.

    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteWitch View Post
    There's many who like this game, and there's many who dont . You probably just dont ever see them come to the forums to say anything about it. And if they do, they're silenced like being censored in China.
    Yep. Game is not for everyone. No game ever will be or can be since this world is full of so many different people.

    The forums are a microscopic representation of the player base. ENTIRELY TRUE! The funniest part though is all the drama and fearmongering, doomsaying and accusations I see here are absolutely tiny minorities in the game when I play it. If the actual game was populated with all the presented personalities and insane moral stances I encounter here? I would NEVER login.

    Weird though it seems to just be another online game where most people are reasonable humans that are logging in to play their favorite video game for a few.


    I'm not surprised you feel censored since 1 of your 4 posts since joining got nixxed (I posted in it btw so I was wondering where it went too but I'll say it was going south real fast) , but there's LOTS of negativity still here. I'd say it's the majority of the forum posts really. It's hilarious to say that any criticism is removed when about 70% of the topics here OR MORE are straight up just people grousing about what they hate.
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    Last edited by Krotoan; 02-09-2022 at 11:07 AM.
    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

  5. #14
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    Jin-'s Avatar
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    Jin Wa
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    Agree OP on most of the points apart having not knowledge about your last point
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  6. #15
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    So your complaint is that the game is too easy without having played at max level? Old content is always easy in any MMO. If you make it hard people will quit before they even get to max. Imagine being stuck on a fight for days unable to progress - doesn't sound like a good time to me. Tons of challenges await you at 90 and that's the way it should be in my honest opinion.

    I do agree however that dungeons in general are too easy. "Extreme" dungeons are a complete joke and I clear them daily without knowing any of the tactics whatsoever.
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    Last edited by Imoye; 02-09-2022 at 11:21 AM.

  7. #16
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    There literally a topic about not liking Endwalker.

    Stop lying for attention, TC.
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  8. 02-09-2022 11:49 AM

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    Well, at the very least, if you want to say anything about the game, say it on the healer forum! The developers never check it!
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  10. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteWitch View Post
    That thread doesnt seem too promising to new players right? Good to know all my points were lies!! I am done engaging here LMAO
    The point is that there is literally criticism on the front page that has REMAINED there proving that your perception that all criticism gets censored and removed is untrue.

    Your post likely got removed cause it was a trash fire.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

  11. #19
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    FFXIV is a story oriented game. You play for the story and stay for whatever reason you want (Glamour farming, Raids, housing, etc).

    I wouldn't really recommend the game to anyone if they wanted a hardcore raiding or PvP experience because FFXIV doesn't really do hardcore. Yeah, you can be a hardcore Triple Legends raider that parses night and day until you're in the 99% percentile but considering that the content is so formulaic in nature that even a new player can access and clear raids given the drive to, it's not really all that special an achievement.

    The game is very casual focused. If you want a nice easy going MMO with a good story that also lets you just chat with friends and do whatever strikes your fancy, then FFXIV is perfect for you. If you want challenge, I suggest looking elsewhere because while the Savages and Ultimates are fun, they're also few and far between.
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  12. #20
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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    FFXIV is a story oriented game. You play for the story and stay for whatever reason you want (Glamour farming, Raids, housing, etc).

    I wouldn't really recommend the game to anyone if they wanted a hardcore raiding or PvP experience because FFXIV doesn't really do hardcore. Yeah, you can be a hardcore Triple Legends raider that parses night and day until you're in the 99% percentile but considering that the content is so formulaic in nature that even a new player can access and clear raids given the drive to, it's not really all that special an achievement.

    The game is very casual focused. If you want a nice easy going MMO with a good story that also lets you just chat with friends and do whatever strikes your fancy, then FFXIV is perfect for you. If you want challenge, I suggest looking elsewhere because while the Savages and Ultimates are fun, they're also few and far between.
    The real funny part is that the casual content does have some "hardcore" grinding involved. Triple Triad mount, Firmament and the score/mount achievement, Chocobo racing and breeding for the perfect bird, ect. Of course the game is easy, everyone saw what happened to the game between 1.0 and ARR. At this point the game feels more relaxing than ever and that's okay. There are plenty of other games if you want some legit challenge. No one is stopping you from playing your favorite game, go for it!
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