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    I see tanks forget their tank stance and it is literally no big deal bc we're human and it happens. But to turn off tank stance in a dungeon, you have to manually do it.
    so my guess is maybe you clicked it turning it off accidentally then DC'd, wiped the team, then rage quit when they questioned you about it? I feel there is more to it than what is being told. Maybe a small detail you omitted. A report being filed, and it actually going through and a strike being put on your account happened because there must have been some proof that an offense was committed.
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    Wesley Hardin
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    Quote Originally Posted by juicybug View Post
    I see tanks forget their tank stance and it is literally no big deal bc we're human and it happens. But to turn off tank stance in a dungeon, you have to manually do it.
    so my guess is maybe you clicked it turning it off accidentally then DC'd, wiped the team, then rage quit when they questioned you about it? I feel there is more to it than what is being told. Maybe a small detail you omitted. A report being filed, and it actually going through and a strike being put on your account happened because there must have been some proof that an offense was committed.
    There's always more to these stories, and the way OP conducts himself is pretty telling. What I do agree with is that GMs should always describe the interactions that prompted the warning/ban. In most MMOs it is common procedure to explain exactly the violation you incurred in. Hell, I've seen players like OP get flat out exposed on the forums by GMs with logs in hand.
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    Galadriel Everqueen
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    Quote Originally Posted by juicybug View Post
    I see tanks forget their tank stance and it is literally no big deal bc we're human and it happens. But to turn off tank stance in a dungeon, you have to manually do it.
    so my guess is maybe you clicked it turning it off accidentally then DC'd, wiped the team, then rage quit when they questioned you about it? I feel there is more to it than what is being told. Maybe a small detail you omitted. A report being filed, and it actually going through and a strike being put on your account happened because there must have been some proof that an offense was committed.
    I have not gotten far enough with the game to try tanking a raid yet, so I don't know the specifics of the mechanics. I will say that I have played a number of MMOs with "stances" and toggles that generally stay on all the time even through logging in and logging out. Sometimes crap happens and stuff you think is activated is not, I can't see a game company actually taking action based on a toggle being off, regardless of how it works, or a raid being wiped. A lot of people are focusing on how that toggle works, but I have to look back at long years of playing and wonder why the company would notice, care, or intervene. If they considered not running the toggle to be griefing, then they would likely just make it so whatever it does a passive feature of the class that activates alongside going into combat mode.

    If I had to make an educated guess I'd look at the attitude the OP has towards leaving groups, and saying "meh, I did my 30 minute leaver penalty". I did not see anything written about it here, but I know in some MMOs despite the penalty they tell you flat out that excessively dropping from instances or groups can get you in trouble. Usually though this is more tied towards people wanting to drop from instances early to speed up specific kinds of farming, leading to the game tracking a lot of partial instances "just in case someone theoretically came back". Corporations being sociopathic by their very nature setting their policy based on mechanical realities, rather than how it affects people at the end of the day. I don't know how this works in FF 14 but in theory if they have such a policy, and she's dropped a lot as the laid back attitude about it implies, it's possible she just finally dropped enough instances for some algorithm to catch her. Of course at the same time given the reason why companies usually care from what I've been told, it wouldn't have been a griefing complaint, it would have been specifically for too many drops.

    Seems like whatever the truth is it comes down to a player complaint somewhere, and as they said, they won't violate the privacy policy... which is utterly maddening, and something that should be illegal for exactly these reasons.
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    Thracie Treebow
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    Quote Originally Posted by juicybug View Post
    I see tanks forget their tank stance and it is literally no big deal bc we're human and it happens. But to turn off tank stance in a dungeon, you have to manually do it.
    so my guess is maybe you clicked it turning it off accidentally then DC'd, wiped the team, then rage quit when they questioned you about it? I feel there is more to it than what is being told. Maybe a small detail you omitted. A report being filed, and it actually going through and a strike being put on your account happened because there must have been some proof that an offense was committed.
    That is incorrect regarding tank stance. Tank stance gets turned off when you get dc'd, I had that happen plenty of times to me before since my router is crappy. However when that happens, upon my return I say in party chat regardless if I had been speaking or not beforehand (which I typically don't speak beforehand), "sorry, router dc'd me". And I move on from there. The party in this case from what I had read probably perceived the silence from the OP as passive aggressiveness even if that wasn't the case due to the dc, and the fact that getting dc'd turns off your tank stance, they perceived it as griefing especially due to OP leaving automatically afterward which made it worse due to not explaining what happened.

    It sucks though, and it's truly unfortunate. Really hope the warning gets appealed for them since this seems to be unjustified.
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