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    What is so appealing about a Time Mage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haruka_R View Post
    What is so appealing about a Time Mage?
    Haste and Slow are significantly, enormously powerful in most FF games. Absolutely do not work here.

    So its inclusion as a Job has never made sense.

    Can you imagine something that could change your GCDs against your will, or shorten your Ability cooldowns? It would utterly ruin the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floortank View Post
    Haste and Slow are significantly, enormously powerful in most FF games. Absolutely do not work here.

    So its inclusion as a Job has never made sense.

    Can you imagine something that could change your GCDs against your will, or shorten your Ability cooldowns? It would utterly ruin the game.
    Hehe. Yea I looked up its job description. Sounds pretty gamebreaking. Giving more thought to it, I can see now why people would want it. :facepalm:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haruka_R View Post
    Hehe. Yea I looked up its job description. Sounds pretty gamebreaking. Giving more thought to it, I can see now why people would want it. :facepalm:
    Slow from Arm's Length is great on huge pulls. Doesn't work on most bosses.

    I'd be saying something different about Time Mage if crowd control was a big deal in this game's boss fights or raids, but it's not. Stuff like Slow and Sleep, two of the powerhouse spells of the series, basically suck in FFXIV.

    The same goes for pet classes / Summoner. Despite the recent revamp, SMN falls way short of what it has been in other FF games, like X, XI, VII-R. This game doesn't do pet Jobs at all, so discount BST and PUP right off the bat. SMN is sort of just a pantomime of itself and it took them 8 years to get it this close to authentic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floortank View Post
    Slow from Arm's Length is great on huge pulls. Doesn't work on most bosses.

    I'd be saying something different about Time Mage if crowd control was a big deal in this game's boss fights or raids, but it's not. Stuff like Slow and Sleep, two of the powerhouse spells of the series, basically suck in FFXIV.

    The same goes for pet classes / Summoner. Despite the recent revamp, SMN falls way short of what it has been in other FF games, like X, XI, VII-R. This game doesn't do pet Jobs at all, so discount BST and PUP right off the bat. SMN is sort of just a pantomime of itself and it took them 8 years to get it this close to authentic.
    I can still dream for PUP.

    But yeah. Time Mage is AST. We had Time Dilation and could have it back, not to extend Cards/Divination but our Regens/Horoscope. We're also the "time based healer" with A. Helios/Benefic, Celestial Opposition and Collective Unconciousness for heals over time and Earthly Star, the afformentioned Horoscope, Macrocosmos and Exaltation for delayed healing.

    I don't see what they could bring with Time Mage that would make it unique enough from AST at all.
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    I'm tired of being told to wait for post-patches and expansions for fixes and increased healing requirements that are never coming. Healers are not fun in all forms of content like all jobs should be, they're replaced by tanks and dps due to low healing requirements and their dps kit is small for 0 reason, when in the past we had more options and handled things just fine. I refuse to play healer in roulette come DT. I refuse to heal EXs, I refuse to go into Savage, and I am boycotting Ultimate.

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASkellington View Post
    I can still dream for PUP.

    But yeah. Time Mage is AST. We had Time Dilation and could have it back, not to extend Cards/Divination but our Regens/Horoscope. We're also the "time based healer" with A. Helios/Benefic, Celestial Opposition and Collective Unconciousness for heals over time and Earthly Star, the afformentioned Horoscope, Macrocosmos and Exaltation for delayed healing.

    I don't see what they could bring with Time Mage that would make it unique enough from AST at all.
    Just because you can't fathom it doesn't mean it can't happen.

    If the devs really wanted to (they probably don't) they could attach a dps to AST like SMN/SCH or WoW specializations. Unlikely ofc but if they start running out of design space it could happen.
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    Void Mage Job Concept: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/469993-New-Job-Idea-Void-Mage-v.2

    Witch Doctor Job Concept: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/445597-Job-Concept-Green-Mage

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    Quote Originally Posted by ASkellington View Post
    I can still dream for PUP.

    But yeah. Time Mage is AST. We had Time Dilation and could have it back, not to extend Cards/Divination but our Regens/Horoscope. We're also the "time based healer" with A. Helios/Benefic, Celestial Opposition and Collective Unconciousness for heals over time and Earthly Star, the afformentioned Horoscope, Macrocosmos and Exaltation for delayed healing.

    I don't see what they could bring with Time Mage that would make it unique enough from AST at all.
    You probably don't really want to see them turn PUP into a cooldown button that you have essentially no control over. It could only ever be a pale shadow of what the Job is now in FFXI, where it puts in work.
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