Does 14 Promote a Culture of Mediocrity?

[Zsolen]

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It is not your place to tell people they cannot teach, nor can people not teach, even if they wanted to. Your definitions of teaching and learning are a bit archaic. Teaching should not and frankly cannot be restricted to the 'experts' or people deemed acceptable enough by others to teach.

The people that are problematic are the ones refusing to learn, not the ones that struggle. No one cares if players struggle in casual content, only when they don't try, afk, or outright throw. Most of the toxic behavior comes from this group not 'elitists.' FFXIV is not even close to being elitist. It is by far the least elitist MMO I have ever played, where very little of the toxicity is coming from 'the top.'

You should always refrain from using the second person in such situations, irregardless of whom you are addressing. Only use the second person when you are actually addressing that person, or your post will not be read the way you want it to be read.

[Kaurhz]

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Bit late to this one. But no it is not my place to do so but when someone doing so potentially comes at the cost of a group acting uncivil to one another, and if they cannot get around that without throwing around remarks then arguably they shouldn't be teaching regardless of your own personal feelings. I never said only experts should teach, but only those with a sufficient enough of a tenacity not to resort to crying after 15 minutes, or if it'll just result in insults being thrown around. By all means if you want to pat the back for people that do this and say it's ok, then by all means. But me? I'd rather these people just not until they have had a proper look at their own attitude. If you don't have enough tenacity to follow through without resorting to insults, and if you cannot adapt then don't bother - Again, if someone explains something several times in the exact same way as all the previous times and then gets angry and pretends like they could not have done better, nor done any wrong, then I'm going to just say no. Regardless of your own personal feelings on that matter. My definitions of teaching and learning I don't think have really been stated - Just the expectation that I have and the reality of the issues. Again, that people should feel so inclined that they cannot help people or give feedback on peoples' playstyles without the risk of being banned or sent to the GM is just weight towards this.

I wish this were true, and in many cases it arguably is, but as I have said people go into a duty with the expectation of a smooth run, when that is compromised people generally tend to get a little annoyed. There's practically threads and subreddits dedicated entirely to this. I would beg to differ that people do absolutely care. As you've claimed me to be moving the goalpost, equally players move the baseline for what constitutes as contributing, ironically I've had many cases where people have resorted to having fits because slow pulling, or have had fits because tank decided not to LoS to force mobs using ranged attacks all in 1 clutter. (Little throwback to the first pull of AV with the kets). I think the only thing I'm willing to even remotely agree on is that I don't think the toxicity or the majority comes from the top. Arguably I've actually found those players to be the most receptive or empathetic. But midcore? Now that's an entirely different slugfest of people trying to preach standards that they themselves cannot reach. Most of the toxic encounters I've had in this game have been related to this.

In any circumstance this thread has been derailed sufficiently enough on this topic, so I'm probably not going to bother even replying to the next, regardless.

FFXIV hardcore raiders are like wrestlers intentionally going into a kindergarten to beat up some kids then complain to the teachers why everybody here is such a loser

This is one hell of an analogy.