FFXIV Housing System is Unhealthy for its House-less Players (Endgame life?)

[Kenky]

Nothing a little RMT cash can't fix. I agree 1000 is an exageration. But if you think people aren't making profit, more than enough to pay for the game multiple times over with RMT bullshit I don't know what to tell you.

How can RMT get around the one ticket per lottery per service account thing? Please, I'm dying to know.

(I understand how it could in a FC setting, since we don't know if the FC can have multiple tickets. But it is impossible in a Private setting)

[LaylaTsarra]

I sincerely hope that the lotto will allow someone to enter a lotto as a FC leader and also one for a personal estate at the same time. In addition I hope they maintain the first come first served option for new ward releases at least for some of the wards.

Hoping a clarification for the new housing rules is coming soon.

[Jojoya]

Nothing a little RMT cash can't fix. I agree 1000 is an exageration. But if you think people aren't making profit, more than enough to pay for the game multiple times over with RMT bullshit I don't know what to tell you.

I know that there are some people profiting from the system not just in gil but in real money. I also know that the changes SE has announced for 6.1 won't stop it from happening, though the changes will make it less common.

Still overall 6.1 will push things more in favor of players who are trying to get a house for their personal use over those who are buying for profit. I just wish SE would stop pouring resources into a ward system that cannot accommodate the entire player base and work on a system that will.

How can RMT get around the one ticket per lottery per service account thing? Please, I'm dying to know.

(I understand how it could in a FC setting, since we don't know if the FC can have multiple tickets. But it is impossible in a Private setting)

It's not truly one ticket per service account from what I'm able to tell from the info in the last Live Letter. It's one ticket per service account per world. That means a single service account has up to 40 opportunities per lottery period. A single lucky hit per month will more than pay for that account's subscription if the purchaser then goes the RMT route to sell the FC with plot. The flipper might be down to only 39 opportunities for the next few lottery periods while waiting for the buyer to pass out of the new member period but that's not exactly a deterrent.

That's something that SE seems to always overlook - allowing players to own plots on multiple worlds still takes supply away from the rest of the player base and increases profits for those who do flip because they can use fewer accounts for purchases.

Hoping a clarification for the new housing rules is coming soon.

I'm sure we'll get that information in one of the upcoming Live Letters for 6.1, and probably also in a Lodestone notice just before Ishgard opens.

[Dailemont]

I am more-or-less convinced I am never going to get a house.

Veterans warned me even when I was a sprout that housing in this game is extremely toxic and can easily get to someone emotionally. The fact that you pour hours of waiting, sitting at the PC and clicking when a bot user beside you is afk and gets the plot is not only outrageous but makes you feel rubbish. Why pour in this much effort when someone else with no effort and no consequences gets away with cheating anyway?
2. Early mornings (3-4 hours before my usual wake-up time), evenings after work, entire weekends went into me house hunting for /months/ at a time and failing. I have a dog that needs walking, I have a full-time job and after four hours my eyes simply cannot take looking at the screen anymore and still I kept pushing on. No luck whatsoever. Then my sprout friend who barely played the game 2 months, gets a house on his third try. At that point I almost broke down crying and almost quit the entire game.
3. Just in the other thread (Turn auto-demo back on), someone admitted that they were not even playing the game anymore, but still logged on every 45 days just to keep their house. Maybe the auto-demolition isn't short enough. Someone who doesn't even play the game anymore gets to keep their house just because??
4. Auto-demolition has been turned off because of the congestion. Even back then I was baffled and angry because of this decision because even though I play full time - ergo I could also only log on during peak hours - I had a handful of days when I could not log in. The Horrendous Congestion TM period barely lasted a month because SE battled it as best they could and it worked. Still, auto-demolition is still off and I'm sitting here thinking do the devs intentionally want people to be discouraged from having a house? Are they trying to tell me: "just give up already"?
5. When the Ishgardian housing drops, it will cause chaos and murder in the housing market. Since Auto-demo is off, people are going to be toxic and irritated beyond measure because other than the new districts, they have no other means of getting a house - auto-demolition, just because MAYBE turned back on, won't help so much right there and then. It will take time again for plots to open up and considering that, again, as a working-living person I won't have a single ounce of chance with my "luck" history in getting a plot. The Ishgardian houses are going to be gone within the first five minutes. Mark my words. And then the player base is going to be at the throat of the devs for not having turned auto-demolition back on earlier.

My feelings are mixed between disbelief, disappointment and angry. With auto-demolition turned off, it is an absolute madness that people get to sit on the plots right now without having the pressure of logging back on, while players who actually play the game, are stuck without a chance.

[MistyMew]

A snippet of what Jojoya said:

"I just wish SE would stop pouring resources into a ward system that cannot accommodate the entire player base and work on a system that will."

-That right there is the absolute best solution and the ONLY one we should be pushing for.

-I agree 100% wholeheartedly, there is NO REASON by now, SE cannot come up with a way to make this happen.
-Either redesign the current ward system OR leave current wards alone and implement an ADDITIONAL form of full functioning housing for EVERYONE.

By now its sheer laziness.

[inopinatus]

I got mine literally with 2 clicks on a placard when the new wards opened up back in 5.3. Mind you I was on a 400+ queue before I was able to get in and it was pretty much a ghost town still when I got into the ward. Just plan ahead and play smart when the new wards come out

I had a similar experience on Tonberry, shortly after the great exodus of OCE players to Materia. A great many plots became vacant at once, the placard I wanted was available, and not another soul around.

[Myca_Momiji]

So if you own a small home, you will be punished. You must check in once a week. You may never become sick, have surgery, go out of town, work extra, have a broken system or internet failure that you can’t fix in 7 days. No vacations! You really thought this through.

[Nafreyu]

Truth be told, I like houses in games a lot. And would be 50% of why I want to play this game. I unfortunately misread the situation in advance with Materia DC opening about compensation for moving, and took a break before the expansion which I am fine to have released my well placed 'S' in Kugane, but rue I missed a couple million in return, hahaha.

Housing is important enough to me that I've chosen to sacrifice the populated servers and gone on one of the least popular in an attempt to get a specific 'M' that I want.

If I don't get it, well that's the luck of the drawer, but I would cease my subscription and only return towards the end of expansion once significant new story has come into to replace the already completed launch MSQ, which is only logical.

I am sure I am not the only player with this outlook, and the point being that while houses are held to ransom with maintaining a subscription. It acan lso backfire in that players like me won't just keeping their sub up if there's no reason for them to do so.

Anyway, my 2 cents, neither here nor there.

[Bladehawk]

I am sure I am not the only player with this outlook, and the point being that while houses are held to ransom with maintaining a subscription. It acan lso backfire in that players like me won't just keeping their sub up if there's no reason for them to do so.

Anyway, my 2 cents, neither here nor there.

It won't backfire, it's just a different player paying the subscription.

[Nanne]

houses are held to ransom with maintaining a subscription.

If they would design systems in a way to keep players subscribed they wouldn't make it a system that only affects like 1% of the players who actually own an house. They would design something that would keep the 99% of people subscribed which they currently don't really do and have multiple times said that "it is ok to unsubscribe until you want to check a new patch again"