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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Alternatively:

    Remove squadron dungeon functionality entirely.
    Build the trust system to do all story content from the first dungeon (lv 16). Including the pre-50, 4 man trials (Garuda, etc).
    Utilize Edda’s party as trust members until the obvious, swapping for Scions (B squad Scions, like Hoary Boulder)
    Expand it to function in 8 man content, utilizing scion NPCs.
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    Daddy Milkers
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    Marauder Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    Alternatively:

    Remove squadron dungeon functionality entirely.
    Build the trust system to do all story content from the first dungeon (lv 16). Including the pre-50, 4 man trials (Garuda, etc).
    Utilize Edda’s party as trust members until the obvious, swapping for Scions (B squad Scions, like Hoary Boulder)
    Expand it to function in 8 man content, utilizing scion NPCs.
    this would be so hecking rad. i wish.
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    Alternatively:

    Remove squadron dungeon functionality entirely.
    Build the trust system to do all story content from the first dungeon (lv 16). Including the pre-50, 4 man trials (Garuda, etc).
    Utilize Edda’s party as trust members until the obvious, swapping for Scions (B squad Scions, like Hoary Boulder)
    Expand it to function in 8 man content, utilizing scion NPCs.
    I would really, REALLY like to use the squadron I spent months finding (I got all the "unique" costume ones for the race/genders I wanted) and then once they could be glamoured, dressing and training for something other than yet another RNG item/currency daily "venture".
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    I would really, REALLY like to use the squadron I spent months finding (I got all the "unique" costume ones for the race/genders I wanted) and then once they could be glamoured, dressing and training for something other than yet another RNG item/currency daily "venture".
    Ultimately that’s all they really are though, since you can’t really use them for most content.

    I mean, could just roll them into the Scions then as customizable trust members. Or rewrite it so you are recruiting Scions with primal immunity.

    I’d rather see them hanging out in the rising stones than being tucked into that closet in gridania. But even then I haven’t touched squadrons in over a year aside from maybe glamours- if they were gone I wouldn’t notice a bit.

    Sometimes you just need completely gut things that don’t work in order to build something better. I think this could be better than a glorified set of dress up dolls.
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    Last edited by kaynide; 02-01-2022 at 03:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    Ultimately that’s all they really are though, since you can’t really use them for most content.

    I mean, could just roll them into the Scions then as customizable trust members. Or rewrite it so you are recruiting Scions with primal immunity.

    I’d rather see them hanging out in the rising stones than being tucked into that closet in gridania. But even then I haven’t touched squadrons in over a year aside from maybe glamours- if they were gone I wouldn’t notice a bit.

    Sometimes you just need completely gut things that don’t work in order to build something better. I think this could be better than a glorified set of dress up dolls.

    I mean.. YES .. but.. I just want to comment that I invested a LOT into my squadron and as someone who was there for the rollout I would like that to have meant something even though I understand that means more investment in a mostly ignored system now.

    I still send them out everyday and have managed to have ALL of them with Gold Saucer Point chemistry and every once in a while I'll run a dungeon with them to finish a challenge or complete a wondrous tale.... seems like the promotion and rank system that was such a huge part of early "progression" in the game has just been abandoned.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Ainslie Tinley
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    Alternatively:

    Remove squadron dungeon functionality entirely.
    Build the trust system to do all story content from the first dungeon (lv 16). Including the pre-50, 4 man trials (Garuda, etc).
    Utilize Edda’s party as trust members until the obvious, swapping for Scions (B squad Scions, like Hoary Boulder)
    Expand it to function in 8 man content, utilizing scion NPCs.
    Hell no. I love squadron while I can't stand 2 minutes with Trust.
    If anything I'd like squadron to be taken all the way up to be used instead of Trust.

    OP, squadron is clunky and irritating at first, but once you level them they're absolute powerhouses. They tend to clear packs before you can even touch them.
    There are some dungeons they're really bad at (like Copperbell Hard or WP Hard) but in most of them they're fine. AV is actually smooth with them, as opposed to DF, cause standing in crap does nothign to them, as they're immune to all kinds of effects.
    And you can get distracted and leave them to clear stuff on their own, unlike Trust where your death is a wipe.
    Just pull through. They do really well set on offensive, I think I have tanks and healers set on defensive and that makes them focus on tanking/healing more than on just dpsing, other than ofc making them harder to kill.
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    AV is actually smooth with them, as opposed to DF, cause standing in crap does nothign to them, as they're immune to all kinds of effects.
    Eh, they still get caught by Bad Breath, which can still lead to wipes, but it's more because the healer gets distracted trying to Esuna everything and drops the ball on healing.
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