The Reasoning behind The Sundering? (*6.0 Endwalker Spoilers*)

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Nothing there says they knew it was Meteion or the actual source of the Sound. Unless the Japanese version says "Meteion is at the end of the universe, Singing our despair into existence", your quotes don't support your position at all. In fact they directly contradict you, since they aren't saying "this is the fault of outside sources, specifically Hermes escaped creation called Meteion", they're saying "Zodiark isn't enough to stop our doom", but they don't mention anything about it being because of Meteion's song.

If anything it seems Venat just told the Convocation "hey guys Zodiark isn't enough to stop our doom" "why not?" "because he's just not. Trust me bro, I'm Venat." "I mean can you give us an actual reason?" "No, I don't need to. You just need to listen to me."

Yeah we don't do much better, I doubt that had much bearing on Venat's decision to not tell the Convocation about Meteion though.

Our unstable folk don't threaten all life in the Universe either, we can afford to be a little unstable.

Well, I guess Zenos is like 10% Seymour Guado (with the obsessive stalking and coming back from death to continue stalking us). So we're going to need to find our own Sephiroth and Kuja at some point.

And then there was Xande who wanted to either destroy the world and/or take out the entire universe with him because of his nihilism but luckily the WoL doesn't need to deal with him except when farming tomestones.

Or rather what I'm saying is that this is a Final Fantasy game I 100% expect we're going to get another big bad who threatens existence again in a future expansion lol

[EaraGrace]

Nothing there says they knew it was Meteion or the actual source of the Sound. Unless the Japanese version says "Meteion is at the end of the universe, Singing our despair into existence", your quotes don't support your position at all. In fact they directly contradict you, since they aren't saying "this is the fault of outside sources, specifically Hermes escaped creation called Meteion", they're saying "Zodiark isn't enough to stop our doom", but they don't mention anything about it being because of Meteion's song.

First, let’s agree that those at the meeting did indeed say Zodiark wasn’t a permanent solution and that they weren’t saying:

The recording at Anyder shows not that they don't believe Zodiark hasn't fixing things but that they think the effort to return to normal isn't right at the expense of other life.

And if you’re looking for a direct quote from a member of Venats faction saying the word Meteion, then yes you’re not going to get one. My point was that they clearly knew more than simply that they shouldn’t sacrifice more lives. When combined with Venats statements as we leave Elpis





Then we’re left with several clear facts.

1. Venat intended to recruit a group of trusted confidants to help with the fight against Meteion
2. The group that met at Anyder knew that Zodiark was not a solution to the Final Days despite him halting all signs of it
3. This group would summon Hydaelyn and Sunder Zodiark and Etheirys
4. There’s no evidence that any of Venats group were unwilling to commit to the present course and in fact accepted the “eternal condemnation of their brethren.”

Thus, we have reason to believe the group knew more than most of the events surrounding the Final Days, and that they were prepared to face their brethren's wrath.

If anything it seems Venat just told the Convocation "hey guys Zodiark isn't enough to stop our doom" "why not?" "because he's just not. Trust me bro, I'm Venat." "I mean can you give us an actual reason?" "No, I don't need to. You just need to listen to me."

I think it’s likely she was a bit more diplomatic then this tbf.

[Jandor]

Well, I guess Zenos is like 10% Seymour Guado (with the obsessive stalking and coming back from death to continue stalking us). So we're going to need to find our own Sephiroth and Kuja at some point.

And then there was Xande who wanted to either destroy the world and/or take out the entire universe with him because of his nihilism but luckily the WoL doesn't need to deal with him except when farming tomestones.

Or rather what I'm saying is that this is a Final Fantasy game I 100% expect we're going to get another big bad who threatens existence again in a future expansion lol

To be fair, Venat likely wouldn't have told Zenos or Xande about Meteion either.