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    remiff's Avatar
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    Caius Megaflare
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I hope patch 6.1 will fix the issues there with a slight rework, it would also be nice if they made some changes to the spells,
    or added some game mechanics, because the summoner doesn't feel cerebral at all .

    This impression of playing a level 60 job from lvl 86 is rather unpleasant.
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    Last edited by remiff; 01-28-2022 at 04:26 PM.

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    Taranok's Avatar
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    Arilaya Syldove
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by remiff View Post
    I hope patch 6.1 will fix the issues there with a slight rework, it would also be nice if they made some changes to the spells,
    or added some game mechanics, because the summoner doesn't feel cerebral at all .

    This impression of playing a level 60 job from lvl 86 is rather unpleasant.
    There's only 2 things that can really fix the issue: One, searing light usable out of combat (so you can 0s searing). 2, remove all skills that interact with the pet that aren't a summon and put them directly on the summoner.

    I can't tell you the number of times I've wanted to cast a barrier and found that I was in the ~30s of the rotation where I flat out couldn't use it because the pet was dead for one reason or another. It's ridiculous that anything except the summons are tied to the pet itself.

    And Summoner is cerebral, but it's cluing into a different aspect of the mind. It's a class of cadence and tempo now, not of raw button pushing. The most cerebral job in the game is, and always has been (At least as of heavensward), Black Mage. It just also happens to be bogged down by archaic mechanics that serve to make it difficult for people to get into the class. If you want a cerebral experience, I can strongly recommend it though.
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    Caius Megaflare
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Taranok View Post
    There's only 2 things that can really fix the issue: One, searing light usable out of combat (so you can 0s searing). 2, remove all skills that interact with the pet that aren't a summon and put them directly on the summoner.

    I can't tell you the number of times I've wanted to cast a barrier and found that I was in the ~30s of the rotation where I flat out couldn't use it because the pet was dead for one reason or another. It's ridiculous that anything except the summons are tied to the pet itself.

    And Summoner is cerebral, but it's cluing into a different aspect of the mind. It's a class of cadence and tempo now, not of raw button pushing. The most cerebral job in the game is, and always has been (At least as of heavensward), Black Mage. It just also happens to be bogged down by archaic mechanics that serve to make it difficult for people to get into the class. If you want a cerebral experience, I can strongly recommend it though.
    I didn't really choose the best word with ''cerebral'' because it actually has several meanings, but rather I wanted to highlight that it didn't have much to do in the kit, and some once important aspects like r4, and etherflows feel clunky in this new job design.

    I think their mechanisms should totally change, but after that it's only a personal opinion, I'm not claiming to be right, it's just a feeling I have with this new gameplay which seems to me to be clearly improvable..
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