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  1. #41
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    i believe their system is the one thing that prevents them from actually making all of the roulettes manditory...people still believe the ilvl cheese exist...but at least more and more people understand its more about the population only unlocking ct and nothing else...if there was a way to make it a requirement without cutting the leveling middle-man (levelers) then i am supporting this idea of just making it required to keep the roulette alive
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewslam View Post
    Roulettes assign a random duty based on available duties and parties searching, IIRC. Many people in this thread are proposing people be forced to do a duty based on their highest possible ilevel or character level which, yes, is forcing people to play a specific way. I sure don't want to do the nier raids every day, that sounds as boring as doing crystal tower every day. Crystal tower, even assuming people aren't manipulating their gear, gets more play than the others because it's the only alliance raid that's mandatory for the story so it's the only alliance raid everyone in the game has unlocked. It's also the lowest item level so everyone from ilevel 50(90?) to whatever's current is applicable for it. Statistically speaking, you're going to get CT far, far, more than anything else. But on top of that; it's fast, it's easy, it has rewards tied to shadowbringers' relic weapon, and its time to exp ratio is far better than any other alliance roulette. If I'm doing the alliance roulette while grinding my weekly tomestones I'm glad to get CT because that means it's going to be a fast run because I'll be honest: none of the alliance raids are particularly exciting after running them a dozen times, some less so than others. The fact that the other ones are longer and comparatively less rewarding just makes it suck to get them. Like getting Castrum instead of Praetorium for the daily MSQ roulette. But I don't see people throwing a fit and demanding we force people to march through the slog of castrum.

    If you want to do other alliance raids so bad, then queue for them. Trying to change the rules on how the alliance roulette works is only going to kill the alliance roulette as there's nothing to really compel people to even unlock the other alliance raids, leading to hilariously longer queue times as it stratifies people between the 50/60/70/80 tiers.
    then what is the point of creating 24 man content if you want to run them based on your selfish desires? both sides in this are just being selfish one side wants it for the easy tomes and the other side wants just to do other dungeons and reroute how alliance raids work...honestly the latter to fix requirement for alliance is better but they should be adjusted per time spent, lol
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baxcel View Post
    Seriously your accusing people who are playing a roulette properly by not cheesing of forcing people to play the game their way?! When you cheese-heads are the ones forcing people to play it your way!

    What kinda BS is that! Your literally breaking the game and forcing people into the sleepy tower roulette.. SE should just go ahead an ban people who are doing Ilvl cheese as they are cheating the ingame systems.
    there is no ilvl cheese...please people stop saying there is, lol its a population issue not an ilvl issue
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingskye View Post
    there is no ilvl cheese...please people stop saying there is, lol its a population issue not an ilvl issue
    Suuuure! When people here and even in game have 0 trouble announcing that they stripped up to cheese the queue, they must be lying, right?

    Some dude yesterday even complained in Void Ark, they were pissed that their stripping down wasn't enough and they got there instead of CT, and should have removed more pieces.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    Suuuure! When people here and even in game have 0 trouble announcing that they stripped up to cheese the queue, they must be lying, right?

    Some dude yesterday even complained in Void Ark, they were pissed that their stripping down wasn't enough and they got there instead of CT, and should have removed more pieces.
    most of the population doesnt read patch notes, lol [read patch 5.1 patch notes]

    also if you cultured a mindset of stripping down gear just to get ct, but you get ct only b/c 90% of the playerbase has ct...you are gonna think ilvl cheese works too lol

    so no ilvl cheese havent been a thing since...its still the population issue since ct is the only one required for story...if all were required in any sort of way, then we would see a good mix lol
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  6. #46
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    There is a cheese. If there's no newbie queueing for CT and a level 90 player cheese ilvl and queue for DR Alliance, then he will drag 23 other players who queue for DR Alliance into CT
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  7. #47
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    when you get message there is a bonus, then you know someone new queued for that or they just opened and just doing alliance roulette / but if you dont have a bonus and still get CT , its still hard to inspect everyone, theyre under 60lvl . stripping is a shame, same as leaving MSQ for not getting the one with more exp . but i dont see how to change tbh. there is much likely no way . what if those people on 90lvl just forgot their gear XD or they just didnt open those new alliance raids which can be also really a thing
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    Last edited by ForctyusGold; 01-27-2022 at 02:02 PM.

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    I just haven't been queue'ing for roulettes anymore lately. Compared to just queue'ing for a dungeon of similar level directly on a job I'm trying to level, it's just not worth dealing with CT or Castrum/Prae, as I usually enjoy myself thoroughly and have a pretty good time just chatting with the randos I meet this way.

    I've been leveling bard on an alt the last 2 days, and had a blast meeting so many people this way, helped a new player learn how to use tank stance properly in Tam Tara.. but even with the CT raid overflow, I never had a horrible time like I have had with Castrum. MSQ roulette has become such a nightmare I just avoid it, even Praetorium isn't worth it to me. Squadron is many times more entertaining than CT raids for me, and that's bad, as I don't want to play my MMORPG's solo. Like defeats the purpose. Anyhow, I too hope they do with something with the bogus alliance roulette.
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  9. #49
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingskye View Post
    most of the population doesnt read patch notes, lol [read patch 5.1 patch notes]
    Funny you should say that. I DO read patch notes, and i dont remember that being mentioned. I just spent a couple mins with the 5.1 notes, and "find in page" is unable to find any reference to this. I tried about a dozen searches i thought might work(roulette, item level, syrcus, etc) along with a full reading of the known and resolved issues. So please, enlighten us. Where precisely is this said? Be specific. If this is something we're all wrong about, allow us to learn.
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  10. #50
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    Nixx Loha
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    The game has a recommended gear function, not sure why this can't be expanded on for queueing for things like alliance raid roulette to check that what you have equipped is the same or close to your max equippable gear.

    Sure there are ways to circumvent this, but I would think it would reduce the amount of players lowering their ilvl with low level gear or unequipping gear.

    Irks me to no end when I get CT and I see a person wearing 3 or less gear pieces for their health to shoot up once they equip their full set again.
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