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  1. #11
    Player
    ryouma17's Avatar
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    Character
    Haven Belle
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by kizumiayamame View Post
    Congrats, you watched a youtube video at 2x speed to figure out your class rotation
    i did no such thing, i always figure everything out on my own makes the game far more enjoyable, i feel insulted that you would even suggest i watch a video to get good, why i just dont think we can be friends any longer good day to you and farewell
    (3)

  2. #12
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    Seera1024's Avatar
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    Character
    Chymea Sum
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    It's a tool. It has it's uses and it has its limitations.

    The first step in learning a class is learning your rotation. You go do that on an dummy.

    The next step is to take it into easy combat (say a regular trial that you've done before and know the mechanics of) and start practicing doing the rotation while dodging mechanics.

    That way when you take it into harder combat that you may not know the mechanics of you:

    1. Know where your skills are on the bar. You can't watch out for mechanics if you have to look at your bar for what button to press next. This is what SSS helps with.
    2. Have practiced how to modify your rotation to deal with mechanics - ie: such as knowing when to cast triplecast on a black mage to prepare for a mechanics that make you move for an extended period or length of the floor.

    This means that while you may not have perfect uptime, you at least can maintain some uptime during mechanics where allowed.
    (7)

  3. #13
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    Asari5's Avatar
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    Character
    Na'mira Yarhu
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    dummies are all over the place, no need for sss xD
    (1)

  4. #14
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    Character
    Zaniel Taephen
    World
    Sophia
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by kizumiayamame View Post
    Get this: the same people saying with a straight face that a glorified sandbag improves their rotation are the same ones dying to raidwides because they didn't move in for heals.
    You know how most learning in every single field from learning to drive a car to engineering is done? By mastering of rote behaviours through repetition before then using those rote behaviours in active situations. If you want to train someone to drive a manual car, sit them in the driveway and get them to change gears until it becomes second nature THEN take them out on the road when they can concentrate on their surroundings instead of panicking about getting from 1st to 2nd or pressing the accelerator and clutch at the same time. SSS is sitting in the driveway learning, not NASCAR, it still has value.
    (11)

  5. #15
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    kizumiayamame's Avatar
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    Character
    Kim Lip
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaniel View Post
    You know how most learning in every single field from learning to drive a car to engineering is done? By mastering of rote behaviours through repetition before then using those rote behaviours in active situations. If you want to train someone to drive a manual car, sit them in the driveway and get them to change gears until it becomes second nature THEN take them out on the road when they can concentrate on their surroundings instead of panicking about getting from 1st to 2nd or pressing the accelerator and clutch at the same time. SSS is sitting in the driveway learning, not NASCAR, it still has value.
    Well according to you then everyone in my savage parties would've gotten into car accidents LMAO
    (1)

  6. #16
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Character
    Mira Clearweaver
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 90
    I’m not pretending! I’m constantly berating how SSS is a joke whenever I see people raving how good they are!

    Half-joke aside, it has its place. But like others had mentioned, it doesn’t tell us the full picture. And the full picture involves many other important elements..
    (2)

  7. #17
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    EverQuest's Avatar
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    Character
    Player Commendation
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 90
    Keep in mind you'll have buffs in a party so that should cover the difference and then some in most scenarios.

    Checks in 3/4 are light.
    (1)

  8. #18
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Character
    Sturm Churro
    World
    Marilith
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    I do appreciate people actually trying to improve and practice their rotation on a dummy. Most people don't even bother.
    (9)
    WHM | RDM | DNC

  9. #19
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Character
    Raansu Omiyari
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    You have to start somewhere and SSS is a great way to learn a new rotation and a tool to know if your raw DPS is good enough to clear a fight. Stop expecting everyone to be perfect and know the fights immediately.
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  10. #20
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    Character
    Aelona Chillwind
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    I am not exactly understanding your point here.
    Should you go in blind?

    Dummies are good practice and you should practice.
    The point of dummies isn't to practice actual fights it's to practice your foundation.
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