Current top 100th percentile on P1S since 6.08 buffs

[CKNovel]

I just disagree with the idea that summoner should just be a blatantly weaker job than it’s counterparts.

"SMN has the same mobility as MCH, therefore it should have the same DPS" is Sophistry.
It makes sense when you look at it that way, but it doesn't makes sense in the caster context.

The whole question just exists to prove that the mobility tax is an outdated design that only worked because it applied to a single role and that role was forced into parties.

I am curious to see what is going on in the JP forums. I feel like they probably have more sway than NA or EU folks.

JP became quite active, I've been reading the comments using google trad (Yes, I have free time) and here's what I gathered so far:
-They don't agree with the design of "pure dps" and "ranged" together.
-A lot of them wants Dismantle/Palisade back.
-They don't like Flamethrower as it lacks play ad synergy in the MCH kit.
-Automaton Queen "attacking without permission" makes it hard to appreciate the AQ.
-They also want communication about MCH place.
-Disappointment with the 6.08 in general
-Some also wanted an actual melee phase with a Chainsaw.

Wait, aren’t those technically against TOS anyway?

Using 3rd party program is against TOS.
Harassing someone over their DPS is TOS.

There is no problem when it comes to reading battle logs ourselves, putting the numbers in a spreadsheet and calculate our DPS.

[Aikaal]

I figured I'd humor you with this fresh reddit meme which usually has a part of truth in the meme.

Reality is mobility has no DPS gain.
Reality is that strats are designed to keep uptime and casts
Reality is specialized mechanics like Liquid Hell in UCoB are handled by Ranged Phys because of that mobility and that's where it comes handy, not DPS

[Sequora]

I figured I'd humor you with this fresh reddit meme which usually has a part of truth in the meme.

Reality is mobility has no DPS gain.
Reality is that strats are designed to keep uptime and casts
Reality is specialized mechanics like Liquid Hell in UCoB are handled by Ranged Phys because of that mobility and that's where it comes handy, not DPS

This. Ranged tax needs to either be eliminated or reduced. Otherwise I think rez needs to go. No other job pays a double tax. Dancer has lower personal damage because it provides damage to the party

[Aikaal]

Y'all complained about day 1 100th percentle,

Here's 90th percentile for the last day. It's pretty accurate of the reality. A massive difference between melees then casters and then ranged physical. You want melees stronger? Sure, but such difference? Hell no, melees don't suffer from melee uptime lost. The community always build strats so its not an issue.

Of course! There is the anomaly called Black Mage which got a significant buff and then Monk got a minor buff. It didn't change Monk by much but a buff is a buff. Sadly, those actions does make some people question what the hell is happening or what they were thinking. There was definitely more urgent needs than Phantom Rush gaining 15% potency.

[Hypn0tyk]

Given that Machinist is a pure firepower job, its feels kind of sad that it is the lowest damage job in the game right now.

Without the 1% party composition bonus, many groups wouldn't even bring a physical ranged job at all, and nobody wants two of them.

The buff from 550 to 570 of course helps a small amount, but it amounted to a very tiny increase and not only did most other jobs get boosts, but nearly all of them got larger ones.

I think its worth mentioning that increasing the potency of Drill, Air Anchor, and Chainsaw to 800 would result in MCH still being a below-average DPS job.

I really enjoy MCH, but its hard to justify playing it when I can play other jobs that just contribute way more to the team, and are easier to play.

[CKNovel]

Black mage keeps getting more and more mobility but SQEX balances it as if it was HW BLM...

[WiccaP]

I think a lot of people get confused when we compare MCH with BLM and Sam. At least to me, it seems that people think we want mch to do the same dmg as blm and sam. What I am speaking about if you put them in their job roles magic dps, melee, and ranged phys, blm is at the top of magic, sam is usually fighting for top spot of melee, mch should be top dps in the ranged physical category and we arent. Also on the topic of mch, I understand that we are a selfish dps class, but even blm and sam have personal dmg buffs or healing dmg mitigation, but Mch is the only job that doesnt have anything outside of a role action(second wind) and an ability shared by all 3(tactician)

[Absimiliard]

Meanwhile in the land of DPS:

BLM: "Healer's, adjust!"
*casually standing in every mechanic*

[Aikaal]

I think a lot of people get confused when we compare MCH with BLM and Sam. At least to me, it seems that people think we want mch to do the same dmg as blm and sam. What I am speaking about if you put them in their job roles magic dps, melee, and ranged phys, blm is at the top of magic, sam is usually fighting for top spot of melee, mch should be top dps in the ranged physical category and we arent. Also on the topic of mch, I understand that we are a selfish dps class, but even blm and sam have personal dmg buffs or healing dmg mitigation, but Mch is the only job that doesnt have anything outside of a role action(second wind) and an ability shared by all 3(tactician)

Even on caster role only, in term or pure performance for damage, both RDM and SMN dont't exist compared to how powerful BLM is now. It's one thing to have all melees top the chart, it's another thing that 1 caster does 700 more rDPS than both SMN and RDM and rDPS includes the buffs provided. I don't think BLM needed this much of a buff. I don't think MNK needed any buff, it was minor but a buff's a buff. You see double caster comps because BLM competes with melee so double casters is viable. You'll never see double phys right now.

[tearagion]

Raise is straight up worth the damage loss when being picky about jobs comes into play (outside of speedclears). Watch any world-first or serious progression group. BLM in these scenarios competes with the potential of a second melee not with the caster slot. Outside of those scenarios (and speedclears) it really doesn't matter what job you choose specifically they will all clear content. SMN is probably still a little undesirable compared to RDM, but not by a big margin and I'm sure serious RDMs are happy to not be prog-mages for a tier.