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  1. #33921
    Player
    Ursa_Vonfiebryd's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Ursa Nightrain
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mesarthim View Post
    I was written off as passive aggressive, toxic, and I forget what else by this point. I mean my advice fell on deaf ears anyway because no matter what the tanks took tethers on thunder god, people drop puddles on the connecting parts of each platform, etc.

    Oh and I'm not allowed to defend myself either, because "i" am toxic. Not the person constantly flinging insults at me.
    This is the reason why I just start listing off mechs when theres wipes. I don't bother with advice, I just say the correct way to do thing thing that just killed us and the next thing that will probably kill us. This is also why I almost always take healer on Alliance Raid. Because I can usually see the train wreck coming.
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  2. #33922
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    gumas's Avatar
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    Character
    Rawon Special
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    - healer and one dps dead
    - only me and tank left (pld)
    - heal himself but didnt bother to heal me despite iam at 10% hp more or less
    - i die, took a while but tank finally kill boss
    - casually ask me "how you die? i tank the boss, you shouldnt get hit"

    oh i dont know, there is this attack called unavoidable AOE or something maybe? i mean unavoidable attack or not, iam at 10% hp at the very least you can do is heal me, you are paladin for god sake
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  3. #33923
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    AnotherPerson's Avatar
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    Character
    Cain Andleft
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    I met one of those legendary WARs who don't use mitigation in Lv 80 alliance raid roulette. Specifically went out of their way to not tank but not seem like they're doing nothing. For the first half of the bosses, basically the DPS had to tank the tethers because this guy wouldn't do anything.

    It must be said... he said he had to go afk for a bit, killed himself, then teleported out. After that, I saw them use the sprint skill after the first boss was down, teleported in, afked for the next half of the boss and then said they were back. Circumstances permitting, I'd figure they were going to come back but something else popped in midway until they truly returned for the remaining half of alliance raid.

    Since they were back, I told them they should turn their tank stance on because there's multiple tank mechanics that require a tankbuster. He turned on tank stance... only to turn it off immediately after 3 hits. After he fell to 7th on the aggro list.. I see him provoke without stance. It was... definitely something interesting. Ate all the telegraphed AoEs, still didn't mitigate until both healers decided to give up on him (and that's when he used Nascent Flash and nothing else in the whole fight).

    When adds came... he ran to another alliance's add with his tank stance off. The poor DPS in our team literally took a tankbuster and died. Healers had to pull him back for the stack marker. I'd give the benefit of the doubt that the guy was new. However... he was not. In the final boss, some people had cutscenes and the alliance said "cutscenes, please wait". There was one on our team too. Nope, this guy immediately had cutscenes disabled so he skipped the final boss cutscene. Then he FINALLY turns on tank stance and then pulls the boss before everyone was done with cutscenes. What the ...
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  4. #33924
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Sturm Churro
    World
    Marilith
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ursa_Vonfiebryd View Post
    This is the reason why I just start listing off mechs when theres wipes. I don't bother with advice, I just say the correct way to do thing thing that just killed us and the next thing that will probably kill us. This is also why I almost always take healer on Alliance Raid. Because I can usually see the train wreck coming.
    I'll do this too in dungeons if people still don't get it after a wipe, if nobody asks.
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    WHM | RDM | DNC

  5. #33925
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    Nuki's Avatar
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    Character
    Aqua Jolt
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Somnolence View Post
    TIL the situation when tank dies is easily recoverable if magic dps casts sleep on the gathered mobs and other dps does not wake them. Irronically if the tank was not DRK in lvl 89 dungeon it likely would not have happened in the first place
    iam pretty sure that casting sleep on anything even in pvp is kind of a hidden signal to attack.
    It always annoys me when i cast sleep in pvp on the enemy healer so your melee squad can engage in close combat just for a dancer or bard to hit it once... and the target runs away
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  6. #33926
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    Rilifane's Avatar
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    Character
    Esther Harper
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Had a wonderful Haukke Manor run on my SGE.
    I unlocked SGE on my alt and queued for some low level dungeons out of curiosity, to see how SGE feels at low levels.

    We zoned in, lv 28 DRK with only slightly more HP than I had asked "hey healer, want me to pull small or wall to wall?".
    I replied with "go wild" and hoo boy, when he asked for wall to wall he meant it. It was more like wall to walls because he didn't just grab everything in the shortest path to the boss, he also pulled extra mobs from adjacent rooms. The BRD had a field day, the DRG felt 100% useless dueling single mobs in a "grab everything on the whole freaking floor" megapull and I was pleasently surprised that it was not only doable but being able to aoe twice per pull with Phlegma is really nice.
    We had some really close calls but it was fun.
    He got my comm for having balls, pulling the entire floor at lv 28 with a random healer definitely takes some.
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  7. #33927
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    Avatre's Avatar
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    Character
    Avatre Drakone
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I'll do this too in dungeons if people still don't get it after a wipe, if nobody asks.
    Yup, had a wipe in Tam-Tara hard the other night on the first boss because the others decided that attacking the adds was the way to go. After we respawned I just put "Ignore adds, kill her, bring the marker to the group and she kills the adds". Rest of the run went perfectly smooth after that
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  8. #33928
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    IDontPetLalas's Avatar
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    Alinne Seamont
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    I've had it go well, as long as the DPS don't panic and stop dpsing. If they keep dpsing, i they can usually keep threat off me long enough to:

    A: Raise the tank
    B: Keep them alive
    C: Heal the tank for when they start to re-establish threat.

    But this is a unicorn, people freak out as soon as the tank drops, and no amount of a cool head on your own part is going to pull that back together. The amount of times i've seen a tank die, regardless of whether or not i'm healing, and one or both other remaining people just try and bolt it back to the dungeon entrance, is ridiculous. Just sit tight and we can either pull it together or die, but running around and wasting time is just the worst thing to do on a wipe
    Exactly this, especially if the DPS can throw up their mitigation (manaward, etc). I've had it go well , and we just continue along.

    On the other had , I still have fond memories of my first time in DF in Holminster and seeing the DPS running back over a hill towards me with a trash pack me with a trash pack after the tank went down after a nasty pull. didn't end well :-)
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  9. #33929
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Tent In the Middle of Nowhere
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    Character
    Elan Centauri
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Avatre View Post
    Yup, had a wipe in Tam-Tara hard the other night on the first boss because the others decided that attacking the adds was the way to go. After we respawned I just put "Ignore adds, kill her, bring the marker to the group and she kills the adds". Rest of the run went perfectly smooth after that
    lol

    I had a Tam Tara run a few weeks back for my roulette. Think we wiped on that first boss twice. It had been a long, LONG time since I had been in that dungeon, so it took a couple tries for it to click. Once we got that sorted out it was smooth sailing after that. I really don't think I had run that dungeon since HW at that point. It's just not something I see in my roulette.
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  10. #33930
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    50% of all weekly reclear P2S parties are secret limit cut prog parties.
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    I give up with you people. Forum community is absolutely unhinged. Imagine joining my alt's FC just to wait for me to come online to harass me lmao.

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