Quote Originally Posted by Manny_Maneater View Post
Yes, she sundered the world after the End of Days had come...and the Amaurotians chose the wrong path. They "gave up on the future" because they were going to sacrifice all new souls born to bring back the ones sacrificed to Zodiark originally.
Something I’m gonna call out here is that there’s a difference here between EW and SHB.
In SHB their dispute was over the very vague “new life” to go restore their people from inside Zodiark. But this stage was supposed to come after the world was revived. See here:

In EW it shows her walking up to randos while the sky’s on fire. This can’t be at the same point in time, especially because SHB text says they were planning this stage after the world was bursting with vitality… they’re sacrificing (themselves) while it’s on fire in the EW scene. Does it seem like it’s bursting with vitality? So to me that looks more like the sacrifices to restore the planet. EW as a whole seems like it’s shifting the dispute she had with the other ancients to “we need suffering”.

Anyway she only knows it’s the “wrong” path because of knowledge she won’t share with anyone. Their world was very close to destroyed and most of their people wiped out. So she strolls out, telling them suffering is necessary. As a civilisation, they had managed to achieve peace and prosperity and had a method to restore things through Zodiark… she’s not really doing anything but offering platitudes. She comes across as extremely tone deaf, because she’s not giving any good reasons, even if she has some. So no, I don’t think she gave them a fair chance lmao
If that isn't "giving up on the future", I don't know what is.
Sundering your entire race.
We stoped the End of Days. Venat's plan was succesful. Now, yes, she could have just said "there is some birb girl, go kill her" and maybe that would have stopped the End of Days, but it would have done nothing to change the systemic problems with their society. The Ancients were already broken, and their obsession in restoring their paradise was folly.
Yep, and even the Scions were shocked by how chasing perfection could lead to that but they still want a “brighter tomorrow”, they still want to minimise suffering. In the future, the Source could forget all these lessons and pursue the same objective. What you’re telling me is that if she told the ancients all of this, explained why she believed it, they’d just ignore it and press on? Maybe, maybe not. But I’d like to see her try.
By the way, her plan had plenty of risks and could’ve failed completely… it’s why she had the hopeless escape plan as an alternative. Things could’ve gone the way of G’raha’s timeline… and in the end even then she needed Emet’s help to get it all right.