Trust "Avatar" Mode -- Are the name changes necessary?

[Shironeko_Narunyan]

If you get confused about something like this, I don't know what to tell you... lol

[MilkieTea]

If you get confused about something like this, I don't know what to tell you... lol

I'm sorry, but there are indeed newer players who don't understand the trust function. It's not as if they can look at someone playing Holm Switch with Thancred, Ryne, and Y'shtola and immediately know that access to that functionality is gated behind finishing up the MSQ and being in Avatar mode, leveling the trust avatars. Having it be "Thancred's Avatar" allows for newer players who may not understand the trust function to see that it's not just a feature they missed while playing through the story.

It's not as though we have players who don't even understand that they need to actually complete the MSQ to gain access to post-MSQ content, though, right?

[Shironeko_Narunyan]

I'm sorry, but there are indeed newer players who don't understand the trust function. It's not as if they can look at someone playing Holm Switch with Thancred, Ryne, and Y'shtola and immediately know that access to that functionality is gated behind finishing up the MSQ and being in Avatar mode, leveling the trust avatars. Having it be "Thancred's Avatar" allows for newer players who may not understand the trust function to see that it's not just a feature they missed while playing through the story.

It's not as though we have players who don't even understand that they need to actually complete the MSQ to gain access to post-MSQ content, though, right?

People might be new, but they're not stupid. That's a very important difference.

[MilkieTea]

People might be new, but they're not stupid. That's a very important difference.

So you're saying that only someone stupid wouldn't be able to look at someone playing with Thancred, Ryne, and Y'shtola in Holminster Switch and figure out immediately that said access to that functionality is gated by completion of the MSQ and accessible only through the Avatar mode? That's fairly insulting to those who managed to glance at screenshots before entering Holminster Switch and were unaware that those characters would not be joining them.

[Shironeko_Narunyan]

So you're saying that only someone stupid wouldn't be able to look at someone playing with Thancred, Ryne, and Y'shtola in Holminster Switch and figure out immediately that said access to that functionality is gated by completion of the MSQ and accessible only through the Avatar mode? That's fairly insulting to those who managed to glance at screenshots before entering Holminster Switch and were unaware that those characters would not be joining them.

You can read what I said. I said exactly that. Please unlearn your FFXIV-Forum-habit of putting words in people's mouths.

[MilkieTea]

You can read what I said. I said exactly that. Please unlearn your FFXIV-Forum-habit of putting words in people's mouths.

I'm not "putting words in your mouth," though. The direct conversation was as follows:

> Like, imagine seeing your friend play the game in Avatar mode, but it just says Thancred, Y'shtola, and Ryne and they're in Holm Switch. I can see plenty of confusion from newer players regarding something like that.

>> If you get confused about something like this, I don't know what to tell you... lol

>>> I'm sorry, but there are indeed newer players who don't understand the trust function. It's not as if they can look at someone playing Holm Switch with Thancred, Ryne, and Y'shtola and immediately know that access to that functionality is gated behind finishing up the MSQ and being in Avatar mode, leveling the trust avatars. Having it be "Thancred's Avatar" allows for newer players who may not understand the trust function to see that it's not just a feature they missed while playing through the story.

It's not as though we have players who don't even understand that they need to actually complete the MSQ to gain access to post-MSQ content, though, right?

>>>> People might be new, but they're not stupid. That's a very important difference.

There's no reason for the line "People might be new, but they're not stupid," if the implication isn't that only someone stupid would not be able to figure out immediately that said access to the functionality behind utilizing certain characters is MSQ-gated and is only available through the Avatar system.

There was a question there, instead of answering the question or clarifying your statement, you skirted around to pull a tiny little "gotcha!" moment. I'm going to further assume that you indeed, meant to say that only stupid people would not be able to make the connections as stated above. If that's not an accurate assumption, you can further clarify. If it is, continue to skirt around, or whatever you please.

[Shironeko_Narunyan]

I'm not "putting words in your mouth," though. The direct conversation was as follows:

> Like, imagine seeing your friend play the game in Avatar mode, but it just says Thancred, Y'shtola, and Ryne and they're in Holm Switch. I can see plenty of confusion from newer players regarding something like that.

>> If you get confused about something like this, I don't know what to tell you... lol

>>> I'm sorry, but there are indeed newer players who don't understand the trust function. It's not as if they can look at someone playing Holm Switch with Thancred, Ryne, and Y'shtola and immediately know that access to that functionality is gated behind finishing up the MSQ and being in Avatar mode, leveling the trust avatars. Having it be "Thancred's Avatar" allows for newer players who may not understand the trust function to see that it's not just a feature they missed while playing through the story.

It's not as though we have players who don't even understand that they need to actually complete the MSQ to gain access to post-MSQ content, though, right?

>>>> People might be new, but they're not stupid. That's a very important difference.

There's no reason for the line "People might be new, but they're not stupid," if the implication isn't that only someone stupid would not be able to figure out immediately that said access to the functionality behind utilizing certain characters is MSQ-gated and is only available through the Avatar system.

There was a question there, instead of answering the question or clarifying your statement, you skirted around to pull a tiny little "gotcha!" moment. I'm going to further assume that you indeed, meant to say that only stupid people would not be able to make the connections as stated above. If that's not an accurate assumption, you can further clarify. If it is, continue to skirt around, or whatever you please.

This is hilarious. I'll stop here, don't want anything to do with this. It's only gonna end in forum bans.