Does the lottery system apply to Oceania servers when housing comes out?

[Shibi]

4. some people will realistically play for 70 years entering lottery every week before they get a house

Materia is a touch different for a few months.

But Yes! some will, if they are only ever going to enter the draw for an LB11. Others, with OCE's newer servers, who choose to enter on Goblet52 might have a better chance. To start, there will be less people.

But in the end, maybe 6 or 12 months, absolutely correct. In every housing thread where people thought of lottery, there were so many good reasons against it. Odds could well be akin to winning the Jumbo Cactpot - one in ten thousand - (which I only ever won once in so many years of playing)

[Krotoan]

yep
1. not enough free wards for people to try their hand at the lottery every week
2. some plots only get 10-20 bidders, making them much easier to get, others, 200.
3. people signing for auction at the last 60 seconds of a lottery draw on a plot htat only had 7 people, bumping it to 100
4. some people will realistically play for 70 years entering lottery every week before they get a house

points 1-3:

And before you had to hope you were able to load in and not disconnect on housing day AND get to the plot you wanted for even a chance or just happen to be around and clicking right when the timer expired. An equal chance to get a house now instead of insane requirements. I'd say that's an improvement.

4. Realistically nobody will be clicking anything in FFXIV 70 years from now. Video games in totality have been around for less time let alone one title. You don't want someone to interpret this literally? Don't use "realistically" to say it.

[Markfresh]

Thanks for all the replies and insight, alot of food for thought there :P

[Shibi]

...4. Realistically nobody will be clicking anything in FFXIV 70 years from now....

Ye of little faith! We could be up to patch 42.0 in 69 years or so!

[Krotoan]

Ye of little faith! We could be up to patch 42.0 in 69 years or so!

Look.. I would love to be fiddling around in Eorzea in the nursing home with y'all.. or in my robot body or whatever happens in 70 years (realistically I'll be dead, so save those "I told you so's" if it does happen) . I'm just realistically planning that in maybe 5-10 years this game is donezos simply because the tech is going to be so far past it.

[Atma]

yep
1. not enough free wards for people to try their hand at the lottery every week

Not enough free plots in the present system for people to try their luck at either - and it is luck, I'll get to that.

2. some plots only get 10-20 bidders, making them much easier to get, others, 200.

More people are clicking banners at better plots in the present system, also reducing your luck.

3. people signing for auction at the last 60 seconds of a lottery draw on a plot htat only had 7 people, bumping it to 100

Purely psychological. It makes zero net difference if 7 people sign up early and 93 sign up in the last minute versus 100 signing up evenly distributed. The only difference is your perception. I stood at plots for hours clicking only to have some rando walk up and buy it out from me too, that objectively is far worse.

4. some people will realistically play for 70 years entering lottery every week before they get a house

The only solution to this is to keep housing the way it is and provide for instanced housing, which we may functionally get with the island. We don't know yet. The problem is people want to get houses, but they also want their house to matter and receive visitors/passerbys/etc. So it's a catch-22 there's no simple solution for.

But the main thing is... nothing you really listed is a detriment to the lottery system that does not already exist, principally in worse fashion, in the existing system. The only difference is people don't have to sit and spam click placards for hours. And then, it boils down to having the luck for the timer to come up when you're there, and for you to be the first person to buy it during the tick it becomes available. And for no one to swoop in and relocate while you are standing there, thus resetting the entire timer. Let's be crystal clear - the. existing. system. is. still. luck. driven. The notions that "if I click long enough, I'll get a house..." or "if I'm just dedicated enough..." are just really not, for the most part, true.

The lottery system is preferable to the current system. Is there a system preferable to lottery (besides instanced)? Could be, but no one's come up with one yet. Anything people throw out there is always designed to favor their chances. Crafters and Gatherers always point to things like "I placed in skybuilders, I should get priority in Ishgard." Savage content players say "things should drop in savage that give you a leg up."

I posit that no one is ever going to be happy with any system without that being at the expense of other people without the decision as to who gets it being left to dumb, random chance. The best we can hope for is everyone to begrudgingly say "meh, I guess at the end of the day.. it's at least fair and I had a shot."

[Jojoya]

False.

Yoshida explained that they'll implement First Come-First Served and Lottery on a district-by-district basis. Meaning they can go with either system anywhere depending on a case-by-case basis for a ward.

Please don't spread misinformation.

He actually said in the last Live Letter before Endwalker release that they were considering using all lottery but they wanted player feedback on whether some wards should be first come, first serve.

Unless you have a direct quote regarding housing made since then, it's hard to say what they've decided.

There's also the possibility that new wards will be first come, first serve on release (so they fill quickly) with all resales via lottery after that.