Roleplay Party Finder Account Suspensions

[AnnRam]

I will add one more thing to what I've posted before and it does not apply directly to FF14 only.

I'm always confused how the vast majority of people, not just gamers, but people in general accept violence, drugs, gore, genocide in their media, but god help us if we have anything erotic or straight up sexual in the media.

Because this game wasn't made as an adult+18 erotic one. FC's and many groups created a separated "world" where they actively promote brothels, casinos, extreme degenerated carrds,websites,f-lists etc and the worst of course modding the game to the point that it looks like some heavy adult skyrim version of FFXIV.

[Lunalepsy]

SE should release a formal statement clarifying the limits of explicit content in this game. There's still so much gray area to be covered!

[milkhorn]

1) Stop including all the people you claim were banned for no reason in your story. They aren't here. Stop sorting your problem in with the problems of people who may or may not even exist who are clearly innocent according to you.
2) Less than a year ago Square-Enix clarified its prohibited activities document, and it explicitly includes a definition of ERP that puts your venue far in excess of what the prohibition allows. Furthermore, SE reserves the right to take action against people based on the content of their website.

Harassment, Obscene/Indecent Expression, section 3, paragraph 4 states:

"Please note that Square Enix may issue a penalty at its discretion even if a report has not been filed but the act was found being conducted in public areas such as Say and Shout, search comments, Party Finder, on online video/streaming services, if the behavior is found to violate real world laws, or if it may be considered a problem based on the game's entertainment board ratings."

3) People are not expressing conjecture over an unclear policy that we have no information about. We are discussing the exact reason your compeers got banned based on the rules as written here.
4) People disagreeing with you are not nasty and abusive.

It sucks that your very creative venue got busted, but it's featuring content that is too risqué for the game environment allowed by Square-Enix. You may feel that a first time offense should not warrant an account suspension, and I think you have an argument there. As for the rest, it's plain as day why your friends got an account strike.

There are two other people that were posting their issues here as well that were the ones seemingly banned for no reason, which is why I continue to include them. You are missing the point where I said that there are people on both sides being nasty, if it was just the people disagreeing with me I wouldn't have given the thought to post it. I'm not favoring one side over the other, it's not a farfetched request to ask people to tone it down if they're typing before they think. In this case there are plenty of people who aren't even giving weight to the conversation and rather just spewing their first thought. This -is not- everyone by any means, but still present regardless.

If the link to the carrd is the issue then yes, I understand it. To me the issue lies in it not being clear to more than just us given the state party finders have been for the past year and are now one of the unlucky ones to be the example made for it's repercussions. People are not out to actively break rules put in place by Square.. I think it is valid to want it to be crystal clear that even the smallest suggestive content (not for us, obviously) on a third party website is going to be warrant for the same punishment. Which yes, is severe for a first time offense and I'll continue to argue that. We also don't know if the punishment in it's severity comes from something like a mass report, or if it's because of a GM.. I just want the information.

[Escalon]

Because this game wasn't made as an adult+18 erotic one. FC's and many groups created a separated "world" where they actively promote brothels, casinos, extreme degenerated carrds,websites,f-lists etc and the worst of course modding the game to the point that it looks like some heavy adult skyrim version of FFXIV.

Except this game has literal in-game brothels, prostitutes, also, have you explored Sastasha ? there are quite the colorful text there, or go on to the pvp zone and go on top of the ship, also quite nice innuendo there from the Miqo up there. Or a certain fate in Costa del sol.

Stop showing your puritan sense down others throat, was it made like a adult game ? no, of course no, but Skyrim was also never made an r18+ game yet thanks to those mods it still sells to this day. As long as your gameplay experience is not impacted, why do you care ? Wanna feel morally superior ? Or does it hurt your ego that much that someone has a different sense of fun than you ?

I dislike RPers, both forms, but since I do not like them, I don't go to their venues no matter what they are. If you literally need to repost someone because a PF listing, you have some serious mental issues, This whole game is soo report happy its feels more like a joke. I just shrug my shoulders and ignore the listing. Not everyone is entitled to satisfy your sense of moral superiority.

[Lunalepsy]

Except this game has literal in-game brothels, prostitutes, also, have you explored Sastasha ? there are quite the colorful text there, or go on to the pvp zone and go on top of the ship, also quite nice innuendo there from the Miqo up there. Or a certain fate in Costa del sol.

Stop showing your puritan sense down others throat, was it made like a adult game ? no, of course no, but Skyrim was also never made an r18+ game yet thanks to those mods it still sells to this day. As long as your gameplay experience is not impacted, why do you care ? Wanna feel morally superior ? Or does it hurt your ego that much that someone has a different sense of fun than you ?

I dislike RPers, both forms, but since I do not like them, I don't go to their venues no matter what they are. If you literally need to repost someone because a PF listing, you have some serious mental issues, This whole game is soo report happy its feels more like a joke. I just shrug my shoulders and ignore the listing. Not everyone is entitled to satisfy your sense of moral superiority.

Pretty much. I feel the devs need to pay more attention to this and release an official statement about it once and for all to avoid any misunderstandings and gray areas.

[Caurcas]

Simple solution, stop advertising your stuff as 18+. That's a big ole' red flag. Also refrain from participating is said activities unless you can confirm everyone is a consenting adult.

[Shialan]

Pretty much. I feel the devs need to pay more attention to this and release an official statement about it once and for all to avoid any misunderstandings and gray areas.

Blanket statements like the one you want never worked. Trying to remove every single gray area for these cases would also make people trying to follow the TOS to not be able to write anything in the game.

[Lunalepsy]

Blanket statements like the one you want never worked. Trying to remove every single gray area for these cases would also make people trying to follow the TOS to not be able to write anything in the game.

Then it's best to keep it out of the game and move it elsewhere to avoid repercussions. Tempting fate is not an easy task!

[Rinhi]

Except this game has literal in-game brothels, prostitutes, also, have you explored Sastasha ? there are quite the colorful text there, or go on to the pvp zone and go on top of the ship, also quite nice innuendo there from the Miqo up there. Or a certain fate in Costa del sol.

there is a huge, huge difference between official and thus approved content like that, and player created/run venues that might or might not share similar topics, where SE quite obviously has no control over it unless they'd manually scan and approve every single line anybody says
comparing these two is weird

[Themarvin]

Except this game has literal in-game brothels, prostitutes, also, have you explored Sastasha ? there are quite the colorful text there, or go on to the pvp zone and go on top of the ship, also quite nice innuendo there from the Miqo up there. Or a certain fate in Costa del sol.

Stop showing your puritan sense down others throat, was it made like a adult game ? no, of course no, but Skyrim was also never made an r18+ game yet thanks to those mods it still sells to this day. As long as your gameplay experience is not impacted, why do you care ? Wanna feel morally superior ? Or does it hurt your ego that much that someone has a different sense of fun than you ?

I dislike RPers, both forms, but since I do not like them, I don't go to their venues no matter what they are. If you literally need to repost someone because a PF listing, you have some serious mental issues, This whole game is soo report happy its feels more like a joke. I just shrug my shoulders and ignore the listing. Not everyone is entitled to satisfy your sense of moral superiority.

One thing is hinting at these things and putting a spin on, another is a full fledged business made by players, it is not tolerated, read the ToS, end of story, and if you got problems understanding parts of it, ask questions about it, so that way you know you are not causing a problem for self and others and potentially minors exposed to actual direct player on player confrontation, and more.

I am just saying what the ToS say, no one is hunting you or anyone else for that matter, some errors was made and some people is paying for those errors and that is that.