Paladin weakest Tank now

[Xrison]

It is always about the damage, because the community has decided that it is always about the damage. No amount of utility compensates for poor DPS.

See, that's what sucks about this community. If I choose to tank in an MMO, my main focus should be keeping the entire party alive by holding aggro and having good survivability. If I wanted to worry about my DPS, I would choose a DPS class.

This mentality shows a lot with PLD and DRK. PLD has great survivability, but people shun them because of their low DPS. Meanwhile, DRK has garbage survivability as a tank, yet does the most DPS, so even thought it's a very broken tank class, there are people saying it's perfectly fine and doesn't need a rework.

This whole mentality of "all that matters is DPS" is pretty toxic, and honestly FFXIV is the only MMO I've played where that is the main focus regardless of your role.

[Undeadfire]

See, that's what sucks about this community. If I choose to tank in an MMO, my main focus should be keeping the entire party alive by holding aggro and having good survivability. If I wanted to worry about my DPS, I would choose a DPS class.

This mentality shows a lot with PLD and DRK. PLD has great survivability, but people shun them because of their low DPS. Meanwhile, DRK has garbage survivability as a tank, yet does the most DPS, so even thought it's a very broken tank class, there are people saying it's perfectly fine and doesn't need a rework.

This whole mentality of "all that matters is DPS" is pretty toxic, and honestly FFXIV is the only MMO I've played where that is the main focus regardless of your role.

It's nothing to do with mentality, it's people refusing to accept that's how jobs are designed on. Dark Knight is in fact really strong in Savage raids, only defeated in Dungeons by other tanks.

Tanks in 2.0 was tanks must tank.
Tanks in 3.0, people discovered DPS is better value, all the tanks dropping Tank stance and clearing Savage, etc without issues.
Tanks in 4.0 SE capitalized on the system and set them to always focus DPS.

It's the same for Healers, Conjurers quest line says you got to DPS.

[LittleImp]

See, that's what sucks about this community. If I choose to tank in an MMO, my main focus should be keeping the entire party alive by holding aggro and having good survivability. If I wanted to worry about my DPS, I would choose a DPS class.

This mentality shows a lot with PLD and DRK...

People shunned Paladin during week 1 of the tier because bringing it actively made clearing fights more difficult. Paladin's lower DPS output had to be made up somewhere else in the party, putting additional pressure on the entire party for literally no benefit.

This whole mentality of "all that matters is DPS" is pretty toxic, and honestly FFXIV is the only MMO I've played where that is the main focus regardless of your role.

You can blame the devs for that, as it's a direct consequence of the way the game is designed. Utility is so homogenized in this game, and encounter design very rarely leaves any room for innovative tactics that would create non-dps centric metas. With all of the tanks having an extremely similar toolkit, the amount of DPS they bring to the table is naturally the only thing that really matters.

As stated already, that is just first world issues. As long as it leads to the desired result, it does not matter on the long run of things.

There are a lot of people that raid in the first few weeks who aren't aiming for world first, and this issue would still affect them heavily. These balance issues are actually most punishing for players of lesser skill, as it takes significant amounts of optimization to meet what is considered the "minimum" contribution from a tank on P4S as PLD. There is no reason to accept a balance margin this bad.