Roleplay Party Finder Account Suspensions

[kejakalope]

It's not just the wrongful suspension on these people that's having attention called for to it, but also the actions of the GM itself. There is little to no evidence given by the GM, no actual attempt to explain the violation or even link the behavior to a violation. Not to mention, for the two people mentioned in the OP's post, these weren't even given the chance to be spoken to. They were just suspended at 3AM/4AM. The GM handling this appears to be the same one that did similar abuses of power in the past and now, even after the devs gave the OK for mature RP spaces to exist, continues to do so.

Bringing in the game's rating means little when the game itself includes highly mature themes such as suicide, enslavement, rape, torture, murder, sex/child trafficking, child abuse and child endangerment. These are infinitely darker and far more damaging of scenarios than RP venues promoting sex-positive spaces. In fact, the inclusion of "18+"/"21+" warnings is more adherent to the rating of the game than not including them.

ERP or mature RP in itself is not wrong between consenting players. By having the warning in PFs for venues, it paints a clear picture of the maturity needed to consent to these RP. Calling it a profanity is inane. Ageism doesn't apply when complying to stated rules and laws.

The GM handing out these suspensions is abusing rank and power and, once again, needs to be taken down and take responsibility for the abuse. Considering this is the second string of like abuse, the GM in question really should not be allowed to decide in, mediate, or interact with the player base.

It's completely an ESRB thing. Or rather, not so much the ESRB-- Square isn't worried about the US ratings system specifically-- but rather the game's PEGI rating, the European and satellites equivalent. The US tends to not really give a shit once the ESRB rating is issued as long as you can avoid headline scandals, but other countries are not as lenient. Australia, in particular, is notoriously censorious in these matters... and happens to be where Square is investing a tremendous amount of money later this month opening new logical data centers. That's why we're suddenly seeing a crackdown.

[kejakalope]

I need to remind this to people:



Original: https://www.cgmagonline.com/intervie...naoki-yoshida/

So, if your venue offer "mature" services once reported you get a suspension. Get enough suspensions and your account go bye bye. Also, even if you put that kind of information outside the game if the person that reported you provide links and a GM consider those valid that stuff will be used against you.

It's like putting a lew pic on twitter with your char name/server on them. SE will ban that person.

That's pretty open and shut, then. The GM decided the PF was being used to advertise a virtual brothel (which, checking the carrd, is... correct), and that is something that is not allowed under the EULA.

Welp.

[_Eurydice_]

"I wouldn't recommend advertising"


oh, okay, so RP events can only be spread through word of mouth. That seems very strange to me. The GMs should reconsider their highly antagonistic posture toward the game's RP community.

Hey, I'm actually the player in that screenshot. I threw up two partyfinders that day, one for my friend and I's venue (not marked as 18+) and one for my FC and winery/spa/restaurant RP venue. I also want to mention that I appealed the ban and cited the lodestone article on the 'other' category, and my ban appeal was denied and they said it stood. What really bothers me is the lack of explanation and how unclear the rules are. I hope Square Enix rethinks this policy or at least explains their logic so others can avoid this in the future. This is also my first infraction during my time in Eorzea, and my first time spent in DM jail ended with a 3-day ban. Seems a bit unfair to me and has honestly diminished a lot of joy I have for this game.

Our circle's take-away from this is any kind of partyfinder listing for RP is NOT okay, despite it being unclear in the rules. We're also discussing telling people to remove anything explicit/ERP related from their carrds as a preventative measure.

[NanaWiloh]

Time for serious action to be taken against that GM.

[LittleImp]

inb4 these people had urls in their advertisements linking to sites with adult content, like last time this topic surfaced.

[kaynide]

It’s probably already been said, but it bears repeating:

It’s not just the physical card advertisement itself, but the actual content going on at your venue that can cause a ban. There is nothing to block minors or people who would take offense like the real world, so should one of those individuals come to your event and report inappropriate goings on/language, there is no shelter/“in the privacy of my house”/“but we said 18+ only”.

If a GM teleports to your venue and pokes around they can similarly take action. They could similarly take outside of game information into account.

Not that I agree or disagree (my actual opinion is apathetic), just that those are the rules.

[IckeDerTyp]

Still funny to me, that people assume an age rating would keep minors from partaking.

Have none of you been a minor yourself?

Anyway, you and your buddies will survive the 3 days!

I think, it's time to come up with another sort of advertising, eh? ^^

[Rinhi]

[..]even by sitting on benches as intended[..]

uh hello, this is like, MY bench?? hello??? can you like, not sit here? gosh...

inb4 these people had urls in their advertisements linking to sites with adult content, like last time this topic surfaced.

someone on the second page mentioned that their carrd explicitly states the ERP services they offer, so :P

[Kes13a]

just curious, but how are you verifying the whole 18+?
how are you verifying that everyone attending is consenting?

for all you know, some stranger could have shown up because they were bored on a friday night and reported something they took offense at. "saw this thing on PF, I showed up and ewww..." *reported*

after the last round of this I thought it was pretty clear that advertising RP anything, especially 18+ was a poor idea and would result in a vacation.

[Bsrking5]

just curious, but how are you verifying the whole 18+?
how are you verifying that everyone attending is consenting?

for all you know, some stranger could have shown up because they were bored on a friday night and reported something they took offense at. "saw this thing on PF, I showed up and ewww..." *reported*

after the last round of this I thought it was pretty clear that advertising RP anything, especially 18+ was a poor idea and would result in a vacation.

As a 4 year old, i can verify they do not card at the door. They even offered me a beer. Shocked, i reported it to the paw patrol. I have to assume it worked, because here they are complaining about a ban for it.