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    I'm gonna stop you on the "whether either empire is good or evil is up to each individual's point of view". Both empires engage in explicit genocide. Both are inherently evil empires as a result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowVix View Post
    I'm gonna stop you on the "whether either empire is good or evil is up to each individual's point of view". Both empires engage in explicit genocide. Both are inherently evil empires as a result.
    Don’t think it’s exactly that simple. If it was then most of the city states would be explicitly evil as a result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowVix View Post
    I'm gonna stop you on the "whether either empire is good or evil is up to each individual's point of view". Both empires engage in explicit genocide. Both are inherently evil empires as a result.
    Perhaps you can take it from the development team itself, then:

    "The current state of global affairs is incredibly complex and simple two-dimensional theories of good/bad from ancient times can no longer quantify this world we live in. As such, a large factor [that contributed to the selection of these themes] is that I thought I could cultivate new values and a new sense of realisation within myself by changing perspective and carefully considering the other party’s arguments in regard to a given event. Half of the time these things are born from one’s intuition and flashes of inspiration. I guessed as much but it really is hard to explain. (laughs)"

    Source: https://www.impulsegamer.com/naoki-y...vs-lore-story/

    There's also the likes of this:

    “So when we look at the Garlean Empire in the history of Final Fantasy XIV, it has an established position and the player would have been facing people from the Garlean Empire,” he said.

    “They may be commanders or generals or they might be fighting against soldiers from the Empire, in those cases, the player would be facing those people as the enemy and those people would have masks on, so we wouldn’t really see them as a person but we just perceive them as the enemy.


    Source: https://www.nme.com/features/gaming-...oshida-3068707

    You're free to come to whatever conclusions you so choose, though others are not wrong for recognising the depth and nuance present in complex circumstances.
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    Is the Imperium against magic? I thought the leader of their space-empire was a psychic ghost wrestling gods in hell? Who is also simultaneously the sole reason FTL travel is possible because his psychic ghost clout is so bright that it make it possible for ships to navigate while FTL jumping through hell?

    ...who also, according to Warhammer lore, used to be actual Jesus Christ?
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    The Emperor is/was not Jesus-Christ. He's the collective fusion of all the ancient and now extinct shaman of earth.
    Their last hope since the shaman lost the ability to rebirth due to the Warp's increased activity.

    And yes, Psykers are heavily hunted and controlled in the Imperium. The common people shun them like they shun any other mutant.
    If not controlled, every (latent) Psyker —knowingly or not— is a potential threat to mankind through the whispers or possessions from the denizens of the Immaterium.
    They don't wear the Psykana Mercy Blade for fashion. It's to make sure there's always a weapon around to kill that Psyker in case he loses control.

    Hunted, collared, cargoed up in the Black Ships, and ferried to Terra to undergo Training and eventually soul-binding.
    The weakest, instead, get to help Big E power the Astronomican (he's a battery, not the actual light) by having him suck out their psychic power and life force through the Golden Throne. Most of them die from exhaustion within a few days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowVix View Post
    I'm gonna stop you on the "whether either empire is good or evil is up to each individual's point of view". Both empires engage in explicit genocide. Both are inherently evil empires as a result.
    You'd be surprised by how for so many people genocide isn't an immediate qualifier for evil and that apparently includes Yoshi-p. Though to be fair I'm pretty sure the man is just playing both $ides given the current political climate. Shill to "Garlean" enthusiasts while simultaneously farting out rainbows. Both sides amirite fellas!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowVix View Post
    I'm gonna stop you on the "whether either empire is good or evil is up to each individual's point of view". Both empires engage in explicit genocide. Both are inherently evil empires as a result.
    Literally every leader character, nation and race in XIV have their hands soaked in blood just as bad. Specially the fan favorites that aren't part of the Scions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReynTime View Post
    Literally every leader character, nation and race in XIV have their hands soaked in blood just as bad. Specially the fan favorites that aren't part of the Scions.
    Even Kanye Cena?

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    The menacing aura of every Lalafell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxilor View Post
    Even Kanye Cena?

    Is there supposed to be a picture there? I can't see one.
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