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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Why would you move Japanese servers and make all the Japanese people on those servers mad and have to deal with worse ping?


    The transfers are going to be free, there is no need to "jumpstart" population.
    It's wouldn't be the first time they've populated new DCs with existing world servers.

    Players with FCs and houses will be hard pressed to find a reason to jump ship and transfer to another server.
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  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    It's wouldn't be the first time they've populated new DCs with existing world servers.

    Players with FCs and houses will be hard pressed to find a reason to jump ship and transfer to another server.
    Maybe not the first time for DCs in the same region, but if people were srsly thinking they were gonna fly the physical servers from Japan to wherever the new OCE DC is while the game is still running and in this current climate, they probably didnt think too hard about the logistics of why that would be not the best option.

    Remember, when they created Crystal and Light, they didnt ship the servers to other places, they moved them around in the buildings the servers already existed in. The total number of worlds in each region never went down, they were simply reorganised, just as is the plan with the JP servers in the coming year.
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    Last edited by MrThinker; 01-14-2022 at 07:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrThinker View Post
    Maybe not the first time for DCs in the same region, but if people were srsly thinking they were gonna fly the physical servers from Japan to wherever the new OCE DC is while the game is still running and in this current climate, they probably didnt think too hard about the logistics of why that would be not the best option.
    As someone who has done it innumerable times in other industries, a database dump onto new servers could likely be done well inside the 24 hours of maintenance. The servers wouldn't have been moved.

    However I am ok with the defacto servers staying in Japan. I am less ok that the marketboard, fresh and new and completely empty, will have hugely inflated prices over the other regions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    As someone who has done it innumerable times in other industries, a database dump onto new servers could likely be done well inside the 24 hours of maintenance. The servers wouldn't have been moved.
    Then what is currently the plan is basically this but actually giving people the choice.

    However I am ok with the defacto servers staying in Japan. I am less ok that the marketboard, fresh and new and completely empty, will have hugely inflated prices over the other regions.
    Your second statement on the other warrants more in depth discussion. But not by me.
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    Double exp, eh? I may transfer there for a bit if able.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanis_Ebonhart View Post
    Double exp, eh? I may transfer there for a bit if able.
    It's one way free, then there is a 90 day time limit you must remain, and pay US$18 to return.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    As someone who has done it innumerable times in other industries, a database dump onto new servers could likely be done well inside the 24 hours of maintenance. The servers wouldn't have been moved.

    However I am ok with the defacto servers staying in Japan. I am less ok that the marketboard, fresh and new and completely empty, will have hugely inflated prices over the other regions.
    Yep they don't need to move the actual server. They should move 2 old world into the new datacenter like they did back with the EU datacenter when they opened it to create a more stable foundation. Otherwise the population growtth might be much much slower since an empty server is really not appetizing to move in at the start. I imagine a lot will wait for it to grow before moving there which will further add to the problem of getting the population to grow faster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    It's one way free, then there is a 90 day time limit you must remain, and pay US$18 to return.
    I'll just free transfer when they open up a new usa server in August.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garet View Post
    Yep they don't need to move the actual server. They should move 2 old world into the new datacenter like they did back with the EU datacenter when they opened it to create a more stable foundation. Otherwise the population growtth might be much much slower since an empty server is really not appetizing to move in at the start. I imagine a lot will wait for it to grow before moving there which will further add to the problem of getting the population to grow faster.
    You can't compare the oce dc to europe though.

    the servers your quoting are jpn servers. from the jpn dc people from other regions joined them knowing there jpn servers. if thy moved them there main target audience (japanese players) get effected.

    the Europe's dc shuffle did not massively hinder the main target players bar those who changed for statics.

    They are not going to massively inconvenience the priority player target for those two worlds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kogekigami View Post
    You can't compare the oce dc to europe though.

    the servers your quoting are jpn servers. from the jpn dc people from other regions joined them knowing there jpn servers. if thy moved them there main target audience (japanese players) get effected.

    the Europe's dc shuffle did not massively hinder the main target players bar those who changed for statics.

    They are not going to massively inconvenience the priority player target for those two worlds.
    It is technically similar. Europeans joined NA servers knowing they are NA servers as well. When they moved those two world to the new Euro Datacenter from NA they also brought NA players there to Europe. I think they offered free transfers for both ways, in and out of the new EU DC, for those that wanted to go back to NA servers from EU.

    But yes the big difference here is that the japanese is their main customers so their voices understandably carries more weight than NA players.
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