What's the point with that quite lackluster story in Endwalker?

[Jybril]

Annoying bait post.

This is actually annoying, can you stop? Not every single person is gonna like the games story.
Stop thinking every single opinion is a troll/bait post.
I don't like EW story almost at all.
I stopped caring with Zodiark at being level 83, so I highly agree with OP.
I don't like how we were neck and neck with Garlemeld for years, only to be patched up within 2 hours of gameplay.

This game in EW suffers pacing issues, bad. Just like it did in SB. Instead of chumming everything into ONE SINGLE PATCH.
It shoulda been spread out until the VERY end. The Moon was massive disappointment. I love the bunnies as much as the next
person but it's just really odd, hanging with bunnies then turn around 3 seconds later and Zodiark who "isn't at his full powaaa"
is a boss. Inb4 they bring him back at 100% and we fight him at the end. I just hate this all wrapped up in one patch then let's
do some rando side stuff at the end. If they stopped rushing the story, it'll be tailored better.
I don't care about Herme's and his tiny goth birb waifu who turned evil because reasons.
Besides Zodiark, Garlemeld was the biggest disappointment, really wish they did more with it but alas.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

This is actually annoying, can you stop? Not every single person is gonna like the games story.
Stop thinking every single opinion is a troll/bait post.
I don't like EW story almost at all.
I stopped caring with Zodiark at being level 83, so I highly agree with OP.
I don't like how we were neck and neck with Garlemeld for years, only to be patched up within 2 hours of gameplay.

This game in EW suffers pacing issues, bad. Just like it did in SB. Instead of chumming everything into ONE SINGLE PATCH.
It shoulda been spread out until the VERY end. The Moon was massive disappointment. I love the bunnies as much as the next
person but it's just really odd, hanging with bunnies then turn around 3 seconds later and Zodiark who "isn't at his full powaaa"
is a boss. Inb4 they bring him back at 100% and we fight him at the end. I just hate this all wrapped up in one patch then let's
do some rando side stuff at the end. If they stopped rushing the story, it'll be tailored better.
I don't care about Herme's and his tiny goth birb waifu who turned evil because reasons.
Besides Zodiark, Garlemeld was the biggest disappointment, really wish they did more with it but alas.

....You had this much to say about a "This is Bait" Picture?
You took a Joke This Seriously?

[Jybril]

....You had this much to say about a "This is Bait" Picture?
You took a Joke This Seriously?

I was actually adding onto the discussion of the entire topic, I'm sure you knew that.
Only like the first two sentences were directed at her. Nice try.

You guys get extremely hostile when someone says one thing they don't like about this game and it's annoying.
What's the point of the forum if the first thing people are gonna is call you a troll for it? I'm not sure what's worse this or Reddit.
You can barely discuss on here without getting sent to the stake LOL.

The official forums is one of the few places I've seen others say they feel safe posting critical feedback and even here I see people are trying to shut down conversation. I've been PMed on Reddit by people telling me they didn't like EW and can't express themselves because they'll be downvoted into oblivion if they do. One person told me you'll get dog piled on if you say anything negative in the official discord. Frankly, if you don't want to read opinions about EW that aren't positive you have a lot of options. Let people who didn't like it discuss it.

This person has it right.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I was actually adding onto the discussion of the entire topic, I'm sure you knew that.
Only like the first two sentences were directed at her. Nice try.

You guys get extremely hostile when someone says one thing they don't like about this game and it's annoying.
What's the point of the forum if the first thing people are gonna is call you a troll for it? I'm not sure what's worse this or Reddit.
You can barely discuss on here without getting sent to the stake LOL.

I didnt shorten the Quote like I was suppose to lol.
I was just addressing the 1st half. Ah well, thats my Fail.

I wasn't even being Hostile. I just found it funny that you took a Meme/Joke image that seriously. Maybe somebody thinks its a troll thread...ok?...ignore them, and focus on the people adding to the conversation.
Nobody is taking away anybodies right or ability to Criticize the game, especially when there are in fact valid Criticisms.
Everyone is allowed to voice their opinion, Good and Bad. Just like everyone is allowed to disagree with said opinion. But for some odd reason there is this idea that "Im allowed to say whatever I want...but nobody is allowed to Disagree with me"
I think that is way more Hostile then some "This is Bait" image. Or somebody disagreeing.

[KizuyaKatogami]

I didnt shorten the Quote like I was suppose to lol.
I was just addressing the 1st half. Ah well, thats my Fail.

I wasn't even being Hostile. I just found it funny that you took a Meme/Joke image that seriously. Maybe somebody thinks its a troll thread...ok?...ignore them, and focus on the people adding to the conversation.
Nobody is taking away anybodies right or ability to Criticize the game, especially when there are in fact valid Criticisms.
Everyone is allowed to voice their opinion, Good and Bad. Just like everyone is allowed to disagree with said opinion. But for some odd reason there is this idea that "Im allowed to say whatever I want...but nobody is allowed to Disagree with me"
I think that is way more Hostile then some "This is Bait" image. Or somebody disagreeing.

I think the problem is that typically, people chalking off a thread as bait or a troll is done whenever someone is critiquing the game. Its done deliberately in a way to try and stifle discussion which is just extremely rude tbh. Lets not act like this is some shocking thing, its happened plenty of times around these parts, specially when it comes to lore.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I think the problem is that typically, people chalking off a thread as bait or a troll is done whenever someone is critiquing the game. Its done deliberately in a way to try and stifle discussion which is just extremely rude tbh. Lets not act like this is some shocking thing, its happened plenty of times around these parts, specially when it comes to lore.

If you think or feel discussion is being stifled by a silly little meme/joke/troll, it makes me wonder if you even care about the discussion, since your attention is on that picture.

The default action should be to ignore it. Maybe laugh if you humor in it...but it shouldnt be to get all defensive and derail the conversation to combat an insignificant shitpost

[KizuyaKatogami]

If you think or feel discussion is being stifled by a silly little meme/joke/troll, it makes me wonder if you even care about the discussion, since your attention is on that picture.

The default action should be to ignore it. Maybe laugh if you humor in it...but it shouldnt be to get all defensive and derail the conversation to combat an insignificant shitpost

When we already have enough shitposting to worry about with lore discussion, it gets old extremely quickly. Especially because it can always be chalked off as “a little joke” when in reality it might not have even been that. Typically people use “it was just a joke” as a defensive mechanism when they’re called out on something. There are people that truly believe some genuine posts are trolls because they can’t fathom there being criticism for the game. I’m not sure how you gather that someone not wanting an off topic meme or “joke” in a discussion thread equates to not caring about the discussion. There’s other topics for you to joke around in, a discussion thread typically isn’t one of them. This is one of the problems that’s been rampant on this forum lately. It’s strange that it’s typically only done in criticism threads though is my point. Which is why i brought up the stifling discussion. It seems like people only ever post it in hopes of just writing off any form of criticism as trolling. That’s completely counterproductive for criticism.

[IdowhatIwant]

Not every single person is gonna like the games story. Stop thinking every single opinion is a troll/bait post.
I don't like EW story almost at all.
I stopped caring with Zodiark at being level 83, so I highly agree with OP.
I don't like how we were neck and neck with Garlemeld for years, only to be patched up within 2 hours of gameplay.

This game in EW suffers pacing issues, bad. Just like it did in SB. Instead of chumming everything into ONE SINGLE PATCH.
It shoulda been spread out until the VERY end. The Moon was massive disappointment. I love the bunnies as much as the next
person but it's just really odd, hanging with bunnies then turn around 3 seconds later and Zodiark who "isn't at his full powaaa"
is a boss. Inb4 they bring him back at 100% and we fight him at the end. I just hate this all wrapped up in one patch then let's
do some rando side stuff at the end. If they stopped rushing the story, it'll be tailored better.
I don't care about Herme's and his tiny goth birb waifu who turned evil because reasons.
Besides Zodiark, Garlemeld was the biggest disappointment, really wish they did more with it but alas.

The bold stuff I agree with. The italicized I think you are remembering the events in the incorrect order. I would have preferred to hang out with the bunnies and then fight zodiark. The way the game worked we defeated zodiark and initiated the final days. Then We were stuck learning about bunnys and the plan to get everyone off the planet, but that whole time I kept thinking I wanna see the final days lets go.

Personally I like Garlemalds plot, I think it was my favorite part of EW because the plot was so dark there. The zone itself was very bland and empty which fits the narrative of the plot as it gave it a eerie feel. Although it fits a narrative though the zone could have had more going on with it.

Over all the story has good points and bad points and does suffer from a pacing problem. I almost feel that the story was changed midway through development or through the writing. When you see the trailer vs the product they don't look at that similar. Where garlemald has this large scale war and void monsters flying around attacking airships, but we enter the game to the aftermath of that.
Thavnair feels like it was there just for an area to kill characters off that would not cause any controversy with the player base like what happened when Nanamo was killed off. It felt really off that we had an expansion that was about the apocalypse and we really did not see much apocalypse and all the characters that were previously relevant in the plot all survived. The prepatch to Stormblood an expansion based around war killed off a scion so I find it just odd.
Anima feels like it was used as fan service bait skin, as the story behind anima really fit with what anima was specially when you compare it to the magus sisters.

These are all just my opinions though.