Strange and annoying new tanking trend

[Imora]

It's an annoying wow habit.

As a healer, I really don't like it. These are usually the tanks that don't know what mitigation is, and I'll blow my load trying to heal them and not get any regen between pulls.

And of course I don't say anything because people are sensitive snowflakes that'll throw a stink if you try to tell them how it's done here. This ain't wow. Quit playing as if it is, please.

[Kansene]

It's an annoying wow habit.

As a healer, I really don't like it. These are usually the tanks that don't know what mitigation is, and I'll blow my load trying to heal them and not get any regen between pulls.

And of course I don't say anything because people are sensitive snowflakes that'll throw a stink if you try to tell them how it's done here. This ain't wow. Quit playing as if it is, please.

I'm guilty of this, and I'm glad soneone told me a while back.
I think most people are open to criticism if it's tactful.

I have experienced mentors who have absolutely lost their marbles the second they spot a mistake, and you can be certain I will react negatively if their only advice is to call me a moron.

[Imora]

I'm guilty of this, and I'm glad soneone told me a while back.
I think most people are open to criticism if it's tactful.

I have experienced mentors who have absolutely lost their marbles the second they spot a mistake, and you can be certain I will react negatively if their only advice is to call me a moron.

Must be nice to get people open to criticism.

if you've seen it on the tales from duty finder thread, I've seen it in game. I quit giving advice after being told "don't tell me what to do" repeatedly. Those are usually the folks I have to scrape off the pavement often.

[Tanis_Ebonhart]

If the Healer cannot keep up then I will pull less then move to the next ones when the pack thins out a bit so the run keeps going. I would rather do it this way than risk a wipe.

Not all Healers can handle w2w in every run. A good Tank adjusts so that the Healer isn't overwhelmed

[Asari5]

yeah and a lot of tanks dont adjust. a lot run it the same way over and over again... i dont think you should just pull less after one wipe, mistakes can happen and people should get a chance to grow... most people dont grow if they dont step outside their comfortzone. but its getting ridicalous after the third time.... on the other side there are so many tanks whon dont adjust even if the healer doesnt have to heal

[Kansene]

Must be nice to get people open to criticism.

if you've seen it on the tales from duty finder thread, I've seen it in game. I quit giving advice after being told "don't tell me what to do" repeatedly. Those are usually the folks I have to scrape off the pavement often.

We definitely have differing experiences, though various factors can obviously skew our perceptions, like region, data center, time of activity, luck and so on. And I'm betting you've played longer than I have, so your experience likely draws from a significantly bigger pool.

With that said, most people I've encountered who play badly will either be grateful or downright apologetic when adviced, or in the worst case silent. I've yet to see the "you don't pay my sub" attitudr out in the open, though who knows what happens in tells.

I've only really seen downright obnoxious behavior from mentors or other obvious vets.
Typing in all caps after a wipe in an alliance raid or singling out a poor sprout tank who turned a boss the wrong way.

Heck, only a few days ago I had my first personal interaction with such a person, and posted about it in the tales thread.
I've received many good tips as I've learned the game, people respectfully telling me to ABC, to mainly heal with oGCDs
, how I should mostly look to optimize damage first and foremost, all being things I did wrong, and I'm personally grateful thry took time to teach me these things.

[Kolsykol]

*Cries in Doton*

Just make up your minds tank.

[Juun]

I generally scope out the Healers abilities on the first two packs if I deemed it too risky already I wont be wall to wall pulling.

And I am guilty of dashing off if I realize the Healer is good before the last two enemies are dead to start pulling more and speed up the pace.

But thats only on the first encounter after that I wait till all is dead at the next wall.

[AbysmalDuck]

We definitely have differing experiences, though various factors can obviously skew our perceptions, like region, data center, time of activity, luck and so on. And I'm betting you've played longer than I have, so your experience likely draws from a significantly bigger pool.

With that said, most people I've encountered who play badly will either be grateful or downright apologetic when adviced, or in the worst case silent. I've yet to see the "you don't pay my sub" attitudr out in the open, though who knows what happens in tells.

I've only really seen downright obnoxious behavior from mentors or other obvious vets.
Typing in all caps after a wipe in an alliance raid or singling out a poor sprout tank who turned a boss the wrong way.

Heck, only a few days ago I had my first personal interaction with such a person, and posted about it in the tales thread.
I've received many good tips as I've learned the game, people respectfully telling me to ABC, to mainly heal with oGCDs
, how I should mostly look to optimize damage first and foremost, all being things I did wrong, and I'm personally grateful thry took time to teach me these things.

I think a lot of the times I see people do this, they do it very shorthanded and without any tact. No matter how you provide the advice, if you don't do it in a kind and understanding way, you will receive a negative response or silence.

There is a difference between "You should use your ABC while doing that." and "Just something I noticed and wanted to offer my opinion, maybe try using ABC while doing that."

[Zsolen]

I'm guilty of this, and I'm glad soneone told me a while back.
I think most people are open to criticism if it's tactful.

I have experienced mentors who have absolutely lost their marbles the second they spot a mistake, and you can be certain I will react negatively if their only advice is to call me a moron.

I think you hit the nail on the head there. Tanks can reach Endwalker dungeons with no clue on how to pull effectively. If the people in the party of the tank are worried about the tank being toxic/ report happy, they will not say anything. Also, many people will dismiss toxic behavior from a 'mentor' and not listen to anything they have to say and for good reason. The 'mentor' might not even be right in some cases.