*Spoilers* The Past and After the Endwalker MSQ End

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But Hermes uncovering that relation would no longer be relevant given that Venat was made privy to that selfsame connection. It's an informational paradox but the timeline is full of that now.

The Watcher states that the knowledge of celestial aether currents is known only to a few scholars, much like Dynamis. Hermes was the one to conclude that the Final Days effected areas with stagnant and weak aether first. The Watcher says this is and his other contributions were “invaluable”, the exact word Venat used to describe Hermes, at the time, potential contribution.

Elidibus agrees, explaining that his work didn’t end there:

Having shed light upon the phenomenon, he dedicated himself to devising a countermeasure. We’re it not for his knowledge of the celestial, we would never have made the connection - and thence forestalled the Final Days.

This states there was more to his role than simply recognizing the connection, he actively worked on the issue, using his “invaluable” knowledge to create a solution. To deny the Convocation of that, even if they knew what the problem was on a simplistic basis, is such a misguided move that I can’t believe we’re still arguing over it. No one but Hermes and Venat knew of the celestial currents and their connection to the Final Days. No one but Hermes had that knowledge with a deep understanding of the nature of those selfsame currents to actively utilize them for a solution. This is fact.

What issues? There's no indication that we are currently being inhibited to travel back to that time. And that specific period of time should be enough to interact with the necessary people to make a impact. What matters is that it is before the Final Days.

That’s an assertion without evidence. Venat clearly explains the issues with what you’re proposing.

The Ancients have more precise control over the Echo than the WoL. It's why Venat had you mount Argos and travel to that floating island. She was able to bring up the exact time that Hermes sent off the Meteia. As noted earlier in this thread, we have the answer that Hermes was looking for in our memories. With that answer, Hermes would have no reason to sabotage the plan, and work towards saving the star. It was a answer that Meteion accepted, and Hermes would see that. If for some weird reason he isn't convinced, the Convocation would still have the idea of Zodiark from you, as well as the mechanics behind it.

Im not sure the WoL has a deep understanding of the nuances of celestial aether, how to summon a primal as powerful as Zodiark, and form Him correctly.

]It's unknown what exactly Venat did, but it doesn't seem at all she told people the truth. We are shown why she did what she did, but this was done after the Final Days, and when there is a possibility that Zodiark tempered part of the populace.

Then we’ll have to agree to disagree because we have no evidence of everything that was said.

It's rather weird that Venat didn't reveal the truth to the Convocation AFTER the Final Days were averted.

Hermes was still kicking and wouldn’t react well. Then there’s the issue of the Concoation being slightly tempered, the populace in the throes of despair and the world ravaged. Telling them that a being beyond the stars is coming for them, and that all known life in the universe is dead except for them would not have gone well.