The dev team did a fantastic job on the MNK rework. I love it.

[ssunny2008]

Current MNK is a good starting position.

No offense against you, but i can´t hear such stuff anymore.

The past has shown multiple times that SE gives af about "a good start, the right direction". None of the changes on several classes got advanced, no... the opposite happened. Unique aspects got deleted or destroyed multiple times. Just check out MCH, AST, BRD, MNK, tanks, healers, ... We lost stuff again and again for "accessibilty" which is nothing but homogenization and dumbdowns.

You could even check out SMN now. Yeah cool, shiny fancy animations, but it sucks gameplay-wise. And ppl are like "Oh great start, they can do a lot with it in the future!". So yeah, what can SE do? Add new primals as the most think? How? With an endless rotation of 4x button spams? The only way to keep SMN somehow interesting would be to DELETE its current primalsystem completely and to show up with 3 new ones. Ofc all 3 bring new abilities and a new rotation, but this won´t happen. oGCD´s between 1,5s casts will not happen and something interesting for the downphase? NO class has such a thing.

We may get more "QoL-features" in the future, maybe even 1! pointless stackable oGCD as we got on DRK, DRG... or 10 stacks of PB with 10m range-skills so we can´t fck up our burstphase as we can´t with SAM now. SE just deletes everything which means more work for them (Dots, Positionals), meanwhile adding 1 new button to other classes and call it a day.

No chance SE is going to prove me wrong in the future. It would mean, that they would actually stop catering the last dumb human on earth and start to put some more brain and work into their work. And this will definately not happen.

[OtakuSempai]

No offense against you, but i can´t hear such stuff anymore.

The past has shown multiple times that SE gives af about "a good start, the right direction". None of the changes on several classes got advanced, no... the opposite happened. Unique aspects got deleted or destroyed multiple times. Just check out MCH, AST, BRD, MNK, tanks, healers, ... We lost stuff again and again for "accessibilty" which is nothing but homogenization and dumbdowns.

You could even check out SMN now. Yeah cool, shiny fancy animations, but it sucks gameplay-wise. And ppl are like "Oh great start, they can do a lot with it in the future!". So yeah, what can SE do? Add new primals as the most think? How? With an endless rotation of 4x button spams? The only way to keep SMN somehow interesting would be to DELETE its current primalsystem completely and to show up with 3 new ones. Ofc all 3 bring new abilities and a new rotation, but this won´t happen. oGCD´s between 1,5s casts will not happen and something interesting for the downphase? NO class has such a thing.

We may get more "QoL-features" in the future, maybe even 1! pointless stackable oGCD as we got on DRK, DRG... or 10 stacks of PB with 10m range-skills so we can´t fck up our burstphase as we can´t with SAM now. SE just deletes everything which means more work for them (Dots, Positionals), meanwhile adding 1 new button to other classes and call it a day.

No chance SE is going to prove me wrong in the future. It would mean, that they would actually stop catering the last dumb human on earth and start to put some more brain and work into their work. And this will definately not happen.

No offense taken.

Really my statement is based entirely on the assumption of them doing a soft reset so they can add more later. However I think you're right and sadly no one is really talking about it. I'll never forgive them for what they did to healers.

I guess there's always Lost Ark? Personally looking forward to Ashes of Creation.

[ssunny2008]

I guess there's always Lost Ark? Personally looking forward to Ashes of Creation.

Well AoC seems to be the new Star Citizen, a never ending story... while LA is gonna be another P2W / P2P blender. So yeah...

It’s pretty uncalled for to accuse someone of not playing the job before this new expansion just because they subjectively disagree with you on whether the changes are better or not.

I tried Monk for a while in Shadowbringers, and then again in Endwalker; I prefer Endwalker’s version a lot, and it feels a lot better to me to play on controller. Things flow together more smoothly, I have a better preferred hotbar now, and I appreciate there still being some positionals but not as many!

Have you checked my points?

You´ve actually made clear what´s better / worse for you in that one sentence. Less buttons, less positionals, you like it, that´s fine. OP on the other hand has claimed some things and everything he find "positive" is stuff we already had before. Elixier-field has been a thing before and got used way more often. Enlightenment has been a thing before, well even the rotation is the same but changes minimal within the burst-windows compared to the old PB use.

With that in mind, ofc i doubt he has played MNK so far before EW. Otherwise he seem to use PB for random skills instead of using it "correctly" since, if you use it correctly, you´ve no options and play the same as you´ve done in Shb just with way less positionals and burstskills instead of oGCD´s. To have some fun is one thing, but to claim stuff out of inexperience another... especially when the claim is "Rework is great!", and all you find great have been a thing before.