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    Divinemights's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    No, but considering the most popular ff games are the ones where some of the main cast members died, i don’t think it’s coincidental. Disregarding that however, when you have a threat like a world ending apocalypse, you need to add some stakes. Plot armor doesn’t make a good story either, and yet this game is riddled with it. It disrupts the so called “story flow” quite a lot actually. When you constantly do death fake-outs, it just makes those moments meaningless for most. All this expansion really did is emotionally manipulate people and so it’s considered amazing for that. There’s a world ending apocalypse? Don’t worry the main cast is immortal so it’s not a threat. Let’s have a lunch date while another country is being tormented by beasts. 10/10 “story flow”
    The problem for MMO is every expansion is going to be consider as an arc of apocalypse.
    If you are just going to kill key characters every expansion just for "dramatic effect" then current World of Warcraft is your best example of failure.
    The speed they killed off their key characters are way faster than new characters they can make us to care.
    No, that is not a good way of story telling and never will.
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    Kizuya Katogami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    The problem for MMO is every expansion is going to be consider as an arc of apocalypse.
    If you are just going to kill key characters every expansion just for "dramatic effect" then current World of Warcraft is your best example of failure.
    The speed they killed off their key characters are way faster than new characters they can make us to care.
    No, that is not a good way of story telling and never will.
    Its a problem specifically because the entire theme of this expansion is suffering, the song theme is even loss,fire,faith, yet what loss have any of them faces since HW? Its only the fodder npc's or antagonists that ever lose. The protagonists literally get resurrected this expansion as well which just completely contradicts the theme of learning to suffer and deal with the consequences.
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    One thing that annoyed me was that after the memwipe - we are supposed to think no one would believe Venat?

    Emet and Hyth already believed us once....there are literally witnesses to the past few days that can confirm things such as Metion "launching" days before the memwipe.

    There is just so much disregard for the entire experience that you had there and for some reason an assumption that people wouldn't do something they had already done. Venat had a tracker on Metion, FFS...and did no one notice the giant HOLE blown out of the building and give that a thought?
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    Last edited by ApolloGenX; 01-12-2022 at 04:30 AM.