Power Fantasy [[Spoilers]]

[Gameovers]

To be extremely fair, the WOL was always and I mean ALWAYS above human level. She has pretty much always been anime levels of super human. The only thing that changed from ARR to EW is the tools, friends and powers we've learned and have now vs back then. My point being, we the WOL were NEVER a simple normal person. Don't believe me? Explain how we can learn every job in the game to the point where even in ARR we are well above the norm even starting out. Our powerlevel doesn't need to be nerf. The threat and plots just need to be scaled down that's all.

[Kansene]

Explain how we can learn every job in the game6

Job crystals have the souls (or is it memories?) of possibly dozens or hundreds of people in them, transferring knowledge and techniques to the wielder. So it's not as impressive as one would think, though we'd obviously need to be strong to put the skills to good use.

[Gameovers]

Job crystals have the souls (or is it memories?) of possibly dozens or hundreds of people in them, transferring knowledge and techniques to the wielder. So it's not as impressive as one would think, though we'd obviously need to be strong to put the skills to good use.

Don't undersell it, while you are correct, think about that. Think about how we have to be not only in such shape to pull off whatever it is, we also have to understand it, copy it and pull it off to a degree that once again, we're seen as the next big thing. It's not just being strong, but picture you all of a sudden get the skills to drive a spaceship or make a rocket out of nowhere. Having the knowhow is one thing. We all can read and learn how to make or do something. It's an whole different bag actually pulling that off and not just pulling it off, but doing it in such a way that it's impressive on an unheard degree. That's what the WOL is doing casually.

[Juzjuzz]

I personnally like the fact that the WoL is not a small adventurer anymore and made bigger achievements with eatch expantion and all the WoL achievements have been done thanks to many other characters who are imo just as important as the WoL.

I just hope next expantion won't go right into saving the universe again, and keep that for the end of the new arc.

I'm not sure how the game is going to scale back things in a way that leads to humble adventuring again. I absolutely want that to happen but the constant hero worship wears thin for me and our character is now, unfortunately, the saviour of the entire universe.

I think there's many ways to do this.

The WoL slowly getting rusty (because of lack big threats) is a good idea too if you want to scale things back to a lower level, it won't be ARR days anymore but it can be better than going to an even bigger threat right away. The WoL could get himself hurt somehow too or suffer from all the big hits he took before.

That's just an example that i can think about just like that and i'm sure there's many more.

As for the hero worship, well it's better than saving the universe and no one guiving a shit about it. And maybe we will see new characters, that don't really know who the WoL is and letting us getting a break from being worshiped all the time.

[Jandor]

If the cinematic trailers are anything to go by, the Warrior of Light is well beyond peak human. Between clashing with Zelidibus hard enough to split the sky, taking hits that send him flying, clashing with a Sin Eater with enough force to cause an explosion, and destroying said Sin Eater as a Dark Knight while also leaving a massive gouge in the ground, the WoL is closer to one of the MCU's hard hitters than Captain America.

Even without taking the trailers into consideration, the WoL is capable of blocking Susano's building sized sword, moving faster than the eye can see as a Monk, outright teleportation as a Reaper or Ninja, and firing laser beams.

You're low-balling yourself if you think the WoL is anything less than superhuman.

The human baseline is quite a bit higher in FFXIV than it is in reality.

Sure, if you compare the Warrior of Light to me or you then they're definitely superhuman, if you compare the WoL to their peers then I don't think they come across quite so overpowered.

[BaconBits]

There's a reason job NPCs tend to make a big deal out of just how quickly the WoL masters the abilities learned from a soul crystal, rapidly outstripping other practitioners that have years of training under their belt. Even before gaining a soul crystal the WoL is noted for being an exceptionally quick learner. Then there's the soul crystals that belong to forgotten or long dead civilizations like Scholar or Summoner that have little to no information to go off of that the WoL still masters despite all odds.

Throw in the fact that the WoL is capable of learning multiple jobs at once when the vast majority of people stick to one or don't even have any and it's pretty clear they're beyond special.

[Gameovers]

I personnally like the fact that the WoL is not a small adventurer anymore and made bigger achievements with eatch expantion and all the WoL achievements have been done thanks to many other characters who are imo just as important as the WoL.

I just hope next expantion won't go right into saving the universe again, and keep that for the end of the new arc.



I think there's many ways to do this.

Maybe scaling isn't needed at all. Just going in adventures is enough imo. You can see the WoL saving the universe as a similar thing as winning the world cup, if you win and even become the best player ever, it's not the end. One other player can come out of nowere and win against you later.

The WoL slowly getting rusty (because of lack big threats) is a good idea too if you want to scale things back to a lower level, it won't be ARR days anymore but it can be better than going to an even bigger threat right away. The WoL could get himself hurt somehow too or suffer from all the big hits he took before.

That's two example that i can think about just like that and i'm sure there's many more.

Nerfing is not needed. Maybe it's because I'm a comic book artist nerfing is like the LAST thing you should do. It's just bad writing. - points at DBZ- The best thing to do is just to change the pace of the plots going forward. Give them a different goal post. Shit do what Sonic does. One game he's fighting bio weapons and aliens, the very next game/day he's fighting gods and the next he's back to saving a city or islands. All with OUT nerfing him to the ground. It's all in the plots and stories. Hell the next adventure can be literally us just literally going to see places we haven't been too yet. and if we have to fight a foe, make em someone who's not trying to take over the world or whatever. My point being is we don't need to nerf the WOL. Lets NOT nerf PLEASE. Think outside the box.

[Jandor]

There's a reason job NPCs tend to make a big deal out of just how quickly the WoL masters the abilities learned from a soul crystal, rapidly outstripping other practitioners that have years of training under their belt. Even before gaining a soul crystal the WoL is noted for being an exceptionally quick learner. Then there's the soul crystals that belong to forgotten or long dead civilizations like Scholar or Summoner that have little to no information to go off of that the WoL still masters despite all odds.

Throw in the fact that the WoL is capable of learning multiple jobs at once when the vast majority of people stick to one or don't even have any and it's pretty clear they're beyond special.

Yeah, I'm not getting the impression that being a quick learner is what people are focused on when talking about us being superhuman demi-gods.

[Conundrum]

This is all much easier said than done from a marketing standpoint. IMHO players who want to go back to fighting thugs and bandits and actually risk dying are a pretty small minority in the end. Most people play MMOs to constantly increase their power, if you suddenly take most of that power away you are going to piss off a very large chunk of the player base.

Basically they've written themselves into a corner by making us gods.

[GrizzlyTank]

Lots of people here that haven't played other final fantasy or jrpg...

Jumping the shark like they did in EW is a staple of the genre.