Are roulettes broken? especially leveling and trial roulette

[UkcsAlias]

Random is random, and randomness also involves a chance of getting the same thing over and over.

Random in games is rarely pure random. Its pseudo random because that is more efficient code wise. Pseudo random often has a situation in which certain patterns can be favored. Sure, in a large set it might balance out. But some things do not. As i do remember some random algoritms give a much higher chance of an even digit each 16th iteration (and that is balanced by having the first iteration more often giving uneven). Pseudo random has issues that can realy show at unexpected moments. Hence i would not rely on its being properly random, i instead consider it more of a distributor which tries to balance out to a certain average and acts like randomness.

Some games solve this by ensuring that the previous x maps/dungeons/whatever just doesnt show up again, unless there is no other choise (a certain time treshold expires). This game could benefit from such systems (and idealy it should ignore the last 5 dungeons). This exclusion system prevent those who queue 3x in a row for the same dungeon to grab a lot of the players to that dungeon and avoid a more equal spread. Especialy the early dungeons cause this because players might want to repeatedly play the dungeon (there are no alternatives for them to play). I have done this myself before (and have seen others do that as well).

For groups of lvl 60 and higher, it could automaticly take the hard version of such easy dungeon. Even if the player hasnt actualy unlocked the dungeon yet (at lvl60 this means they skipped a lot of quests, in which they might not even have realized there were hard versions to begin with).

[Recon1o6]

There's definately something wrong with the games rng system when a party is put together in levelling roulette, all of you are 60+ and you get...tam tara. Instead of anything that would be valuable to any of you

or when you go into the high/low minigame in lyhe ghea and get no less than 7 "the lock remains unchanged" in a row

[ForctyusGold]

its pretty random. im getting now from trials mostly ShB ones D: sometimes from leveling 81 and above dungeons . its just you got "bad" luck propably

[Illmaeran]

I'm 99% sure the roulette system isn't actually totally random. Part of the reason they made roulettes in the first place was to help people get groups for the quest dungeons. The majority of the time when I get a low level dungeon there's a sprout at appropriate level or someone totally new to it so the system appears to be working.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I’m getting a lot of StB and ShB levelings lately. 7 out of 10 times, a first timer sprout is usually included in the party.

Alliance roulette, on the other hand, keeps throwing me into Copied Factory.

Meanwhile on my side it’s a LotA/Syrcus roulette. Half of the time there would some player in the alliance chat calling out somebody who apparently caught queing with low ilv gears.

Can never escape the curse.

[Jettinson]

I used to get all EW dungeons first week... now it is SB or ShB, oh no lol

[BaconBits]

I've been getting a good mix in leveling and trials. Even the 50/60/70/80 roulette (which really needs a better name.....) has given me some odd choices. Can't remember the last time I saw Copperbell Hard.

Alliance roulette, on the other hand, keeps throwing me into Copied Factory.

Normally I'd prefer Copied Factory over anything related to Crystal Tower, but I keep getting thrown into clown shows where fights are dragging on longer than they did on patch day, and people managing to wipe to the add phase of Engels and 9S because they won't separate them.

[xenahawk]

Leveling dungeons even before EW i have been getting a lot of of the one with midgardsormer a the end. I cringe everytime i see that loading screen, lol

[Avatre]

I found, while leveling SGE and GNB, that the vast majority of my roulettes threw me into sub-60 content. I didn't get anything above 80 until I was almost 90 on both of them. And that was casually leveling them. It's definitely something that they should take another look at to ensure it is actually properly functioning to allow content of a comparable level to the class you are on. Don't want to end up with another situation like when I first leveled WAR where it was Cutter's Cry for weeks on end(only did leveling roulette as WAR at that time).

[Quintessa]

I just came out of the Qitana Ravel. Seems to be working well on my end. That's not to say DF hasn't been broken before, it has and they had to patch it.