Is sage just scholar with a different skin?

[SenzorialBoundries]

The more i am playing sage the more i feel like its essentially just scholar with a skin the majority of sage actions have a direct translation to scholar. Kardia is esentially a targeted embrace, physis is essentially WD+Illum, ixochole is just indom, kerachole is just sacred soil even sharing the same 78 trait, taurochole is excog(this one is a bit loose), druochole is 1 to 1 lustrate, pepsis is emergency tactics.
Addersgall is probably the only thing it deviates a bit from sch but is also just aetherflow with a small twist, instead of getting all 3 at once you gradually generate them and instead of getting 20% mana at once you get 21% by using them very similar. Pneuma, Haima and panhaima are the only actions that differentiate sage from scholar.
Ast while does have analogues in whm it still feels quite unique with cards, minor arcana star etc. But sage doesnt feel unique at all it just feels like 90% scholar, this is just my personal opinion.

[Recon1o6]

Congratulations you have discovered what everyone's been saying the moment we saw its toolkit in the media tour

Its literally just what 5.0 sch should have been rather than anything new, albeit with whm's job gauge. It was also arisen from the mutilation of noct sect

[Vortuna]

It has something sch doesn't have, healing resource NOT being tied to damage.

[EaMett]

It totally is what we were hoping SCH would be. With that said, from a movement perspective, it plays very differently. Phlegma + Toxicon + Icarus give a ton of mobility, while SCH is now a tower healer with no mobility (still not as bad as WHM though).

[Crossu]

They play differently and they have some skills exclusive with their jobs.

It totally is what we were hoping SCH would be. With that said, from a movement perspective, it plays very differently. Phlegma + Toxicon + Icarus give a ton of mobility, while SCH is now a tower healer with no mobility (still not as bad as WHM though).

Do you know what ruin II does?

[EaMett]

They play differently and they have some skills exclusive with their jobs.



Do you know what ruin II does?

Sorry, let me amend that comment with "in optimized play".

[Risvertasashi]

The more i am playing sage the more i feel like its essentially just scholar with a skin the majority of sage actions have a direct translation to scholar. Kardia is esentially a targeted embrace, physis is essentially WD+Illum, ixochole is just indom, kerachole is just sacred soil even sharing the same 78 trait, taurochole is excog(this one is a bit loose), druochole is 1 to 1 lustrate, pepsis is emergency tactics.
Addersgall is probably the only thing it deviates a bit from sch but is also just aetherflow with a small twist, instead of getting all 3 at once you gradually generate them and instead of getting 20% mana at once you get 21% by using them very similar. Pneuma, Haima and panhaima are the only actions that differentiate sage from scholar.
Ast while does have analogues in whm it still feels quite unique with cards, minor arcana star etc. But sage doesnt feel unique at all it just feels like 90% scholar, this is just my personal opinion.

To an extent, yes.

If you already have your SCH hotbars setup, you can basically copy your setup to SGE, and then map them to SGE's equivalent abilities with only a few unique things to worry about.

This has pretty much how healing has been since AST's launch disaster which resulted in SE quickly copying WHM's stuff to AST and making many of WHM's abilities into role actions.

[Saefinn]

It's about 85% I think. And to a degree it plays more like an evolved 2.0 SCH on the healing side but I've not played 6.0 SCH to get a comparison on how they've rebalanced it. However, both at a more optimised state of play are more weighted to their oGCD's and there are some differences between them, obviously Addersgall spells have their Aetherflow equivalents but stuff like Holos, Haima, Panhaima etc. I don't think have direct equivalents. It does flow differently to SCH and some of its abilities mean it has a different feel, but functionally they're very, very close because you can find like-for-like functionality between the majority of abilities.

With that said, I couldn't enjoy 5.0 SCH and I enjoy SGE but then I was a great lover of 2.0 SCH. But it's basically more-or-less what I think 5.0 SCH should have been. It is an evolution on its design but suited to their current direction in healing design philosophy. Granted...the philosophy is flawed, but it's the best of a bad situation IMO as a former SCH main.

[Jkap_Goat]

I mean with the game suffering from the Holy Trinity ( Tank, Healer. DPS , except BLU) what did you expect?

FFXIV jobs are all about Balance so no jobs have a disadvantage over one or the other

and with that they lose their uniqueness and are more homogenized as more jobs are added

if your looking for Job Diversify, this game isn't it sadly, I would suggest giving FFXI a try as all jobs are vastly different from one another e.g Puppet Master can DPS, use their puppet as a tank or have the Puppet heal with Healer attachments, Red Mage can Heal or DPS, Bard is a heavily Support job that can DD if needed, ect

[rewd]

Sorry, let me amend that comment with "in optimized play".

Ruin II + Energy Drain, so you are still incorrect.

And who's "we". Some SCH players really seem to love using pluralis maiestatis.