Has the WoW crowd taken over now?

[JanVanding]

Like ... it's fine if you want to decide how much time you want to spend or what level of play you want to commit to. But I seriously wish people stop making comment like this ... Don't you understand it's exactly because of comment like this that often time your argument do not deserve much empathy.

Job is something most people have, it has no bearing on how good you can be. Bring up "oh I have a job" or "I have a life" does nothing to make a point. In fact, the only point it would project is you're someone who don't know how to manage your time. I know many people who can afford to barely play a few hours a day and would still blow away the majority of players who no-lifeing on PF all days long.

Again, really, it's perfectly ok to say this is how you want to take your game and this is the level of play you're happy with, you don't need to come up with an excuse for it. Especially one that looks down on others.

1. It was a joke about the over seriousness of the EU datacenters, you failed the litmus test. It's been a long standing joke and one that is very much based in reality that the EU datacenters take everything too serious, which they do.

2. "I know people that would blow away no lifers all day long", classic Euro arrogance about their self perceived greatness, the whole our PUGs are better than your Statics attitude at play, your best team finished third, against a team that constantly memes. "Calm down Greg it's just Soccer" comes to mind.

I've played on the datacenter, I know full well how over the top, shouty and over serious European datacenter groups get, I know they have no chill..

And honestly? That's half the datacenters problem, it's what holds it back.

They need to calm down and just enjoy themselves once in a while. Videogame is meant to be fun, not a job.

Getting why I said that yet?

[Raven2014]

Getting why I said that yet?

Yeah, and that is you're projecting ... a lot.

1 - That's not an EU or NA or even JP things, you see these kind of things everywhere, all the times. If you think it's an EU only thing, you think wrong. Guess what, if people didn't point out it's an EU thing I wouldn't know. 'Cause I see the same thing every day on NA.

2 - New flash, I'm not European, I'm not even American. Also, the "my server has better pug" hasn't been a thing since cross-server PF became a thing. Feel like you're pulling an ancient meme trying to deflect your earlier point. I see you even modified what I said as quote to mis-direct its meaning.

These are universal symptol and issues on every data center and server. Anyone trying to segregate it using job status, location or player base just has a very narrowed and local view.

[Akiudo]

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the irony of talking about "classic Euro arrogance about their self perceived greatness" while painting all of the european datacenters as a collective of whiny manchildren (thereby implying that the north american datacenter is without these problems and totally superior) is a sight to behold.