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    Quote Originally Posted by ZiraZ View Post
    Maybe he meant that in the past tense because ninja is the least played job by far, if that's not an indicative of an issue then I don't want to see what a real issue looks like.
    Ninja has always been one of the least played jobs and that’s mainly because it used to be very ping dependent and it also took on the identity of being a complex and difficult class to play even though that’s not exactly the case now imo. From everything I’ve read and everyone I’ve talked to most people are happy with the changes but also acknowledge more work needs to be done. The devs will most definitely tweak it some more in the upcoming patches but for now it’s a step in the right direction for the majority of players. Of course some won’t like it, and some people will never be happy no matter what, but as long as things keep improving then I’m sticking with Ninja, my favorite class.
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrexs View Post
    Ninja has always been one of the least played jobs and that’s mainly because it used to be very ping dependent and it also took on the identity of being a complex and difficult class to play even though that’s not exactly the case now imo. From everything I’ve read and everyone I’ve talked to most people are happy with the changes but also acknowledge more work needs to be done. The devs will most definitely tweak it some more in the upcoming patches but for now it’s a step in the right direction for the majority of players. Of course some won’t like it, and some people will never be happy no matter what, but as long as things keep improving then I’m sticking with Ninja, my favorite class.
    I also think it's because they don't share gear with anyone ( only one who doesn't now ).

    Quote Originally Posted by AC9Breaker View Post
    If you agreed with them I doubt you'd be calling it an echo chamber.
    Just because a large group of people agree with each other doesn't mean it's an echo chamber.
    Echo chambers generally involve bullying or even straight up banning and throwing people out for disagreements.
    Websites like Resetera are echo chambers because the mods and a section of their community with the support of the mods harass and ban everyone who says anything even remotely not in line with their views or simply because they feel like it.
    That's an echo chamber, even most people on the site would agree with that and actively try and avoid discussions that causes it to happen ( yes even most people on the site know how shit it is but still use it ).
    Most people agreeing across platforms about a Job in FFXIV isn't an echo chamber.
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    AC9Breaker's Avatar
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    Ezekyle Abaddon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    I also think it's because they don't share gear with anyone ( only one who doesn't now ).



    If you agreed with them I doubt you'd be calling it an echo chamber.
    Just because a large group of people agree with each other doesn't mean it's an echo chamber.
    Echo chambers generally involve bullying or even straight up banning and throwing people out for disagreements.
    Websites like Resetera are echo chambers because the mods and a section of their community with the support of the mods harass and ban everyone who says anything even remotely not in line with their views or simply because they feel like it.
    That's an echo chamber, even most people on the site would agree with that and actively try and avoid discussions that causes it to happen ( yes even most people on the site know how shit it is but still use it ).
    Most people agreeing across platforms about a Job in FFXIV isn't an echo chamber.
    If I agreed with them it'll still be an echo chamber because that's what Message boards are. Generally message boards are outdated methods of social media that are mostly engaged by specific kinds of people. Same with discords, hell even large social media platforms like twitter are echo chambers themselves. The developers know this to be true which why they tend to use a lot of hard raw data and metrics collected from in game like clear rates of classes in savage and etc to see how the players actually feel about things.

    If you think the opinions you see on these boards or whatever are indicative of everyone then yikes. Maybe you're suggesting that only the opinions of people on these boards and discords you hold in high regard are the only ones that matter. Bigger yikes.
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