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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Agreed.

    With decent melds (not fully maxed since I farmed the materia myself) I can 1-100% the new gear on NQ Chili Crab and nothing else, non-specialist. No need to care about HQ for the intermediate mats, new food, draughts or the rest. Just throw a macro together day 1 and churn out new gear. It's a little disappointing since Master Crafts are basically figured out right from the start.

    Great rotations as always though
    Thanks, Liam.

    We all know Master Recipes are really just for entry level crafter these days. So easiness is expected (just not THIS ridiculous...). For now, we'll just keep collecting free materia from spiritbonding, and wait for new gear for some true overmelds, getting ready for new Expert Recipes. Oh, I know they will come... just a lot later... probably another 6 months or so... 6 month of free materia from spiritbonding and Custom Deliveries will be enough to overmeld our hearts out everything without paying a dime.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lilyth View Post
    Just wanna say that I love your posts Caimie! ^-^
    Been following your guides since I was a sprout back on ARR and it feels so nice to see you're still going on strong!

    Thanks once again for sharing all this info with us!
    Thanks, Lilyth!
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    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

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    Btw, Jojoya has figured out that i570 battle retainer is giving 15 items on level 88 (Ophiotaurus Hide/Berkanan Sap) and 12 on level 89 (Dynamis Crystal).
    Details can see from this thread on the DoL side:
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...N-retainers%21

    This means there's reason to craft a few of these i580 for our retainers too! (even though there's no more "profit" selling these i580 as the market has already crashed)
    And if the market TRULY crashes super bad, we may even just BUY the gear for our retainers instead of crafting them ourselves! LOL!
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    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

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    This is some really good news. I wanted to get into crafting for this expansion and was really worried that it'll be too expensive to have to overmeld everything every two patches.

    Although the leveling process should have been a hint, I suppose. I leveled everything to 90 wearing my overmelded 490 HQ, and in fact I got all my books yesterday while still wearing those 490 HQ accessories because they're actually a lot better than my 560 HQ before overmelding.

    I'm so glad I didn't just blindly follow some end-game crafting guide and spend a couple million on overmelding my gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
    For now, we'll just keep collecting free materia from spiritbonding, and wait for new gear for some true overmelds, getting ready for new Expert Recipes.
    I wish I was hyped for more Experts. I really like the idea of them and how they work, but after the unhealthy hectic Ranked Seasons and ridiculously long grinds like the Pteranodon and Resplendent tools I can't help dreading them at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    I wish I was hyped for more Experts.
    ngl, after doing at least two of the skysteel tools, i don't know if i ever want to entertain the notion of doing another expert again. >_< i'm still questioning myself for wanting to get the others done, only because i like the look of their glowing effect when in use. :/
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avalionis View Post
    ngl, after doing at least two of the skysteel tools, i don't know if i ever want to entertain the notion of doing another expert again. >_< i'm still questioning myself for wanting to get the others done, only because i like the look of their glowing effect when in use. :/
    Hmmm... I think you misunderstood the amount of "Expert Recipes" that Liam had done...

    First, Skybuilders' Expert Recipes are the easiest out of all 3 kinds of Expert Recipes, with only ~10K progress & 65000 quality to fill, and with Centered condition to capitalize on. By contrast, the Restoration(4) Expert Recipes are the hardest, with 12,046 Difficulty & 81,477 Quality, and they have only 55 durability instead of 60. Furthermore, they do not come with the "Centered" condition. The Resplendent Expert Recipes are somewhere in between.

    Second, each Skybuilders' Tool only require 20 Expert Crafts (if you do it perfectly).... let's say you messed up a few, it still won't be anything more than 25. By contrast, if you were going after Seasonal Ranking, you would have been grinding Restoration(4) Expert Recipes. Each one gives about 1200-1300 Skyward Points if you max the quality. To be even competitive on the ranks, someone would probably need at least 600K Skyward Pts. That's at least 461 Expert Crafts, which is still more than all 8 Skybuilders Tools added together. Furthermore, Pteranodon mount requirse 500K Skyward Pts from EVERY DoH and DoL class, which means at least 385 Expert Crafts from EVERY DoH! Lastly, Resplendent Tools require at least 100 Expert Recipes per tool...

    Avalionis: 40-50 Skybuilders' Expert Crafts
    Liam: ~200 Skybuilders' Expert Crafts + ~460 Restoration(4) Expert Crafts (for ranking) + ~2700 Restoration(4) Expert Crafts (for Pteranodon) + ~800 Resplendent Expert Crafts = 4160...
    So, the amount of Expert Crafts Liam did was ~100 folds more!

    If you would like to double-check whether you did your Skybuilders' Expert Crafts in a reasonably efficient manner, you might wanna cross check with how I did it:
    http://ffxivrealm.com/guides/caimie-...ers-tools.201/
    or just visit Chapter 26 of my crafting guide:
    http://ffxivrealm.com/guides/ff14-ad...ie-tsukino.39/

    It should take less than 4 min or 5 min to finish each Expert Craft for Skybuilders' tools. So each tool should take no longer than 100 min. When I did these, I remember each craft took about 3 to 4 min to complete, so it was about 1 hour's work for each tool.
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    Last edited by Caimie_Tsukino; 01-09-2022 at 02:33 AM.

    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

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    Two things need to be ajdusted:
    - Difficulty raised back to shb level or above. I have changed pants,hat and chest. Replacing tools now pretty confident I can make 90 on these changes before replacing anymore gear. I am miles away from fully over melded..not even using the best melds.

    - EW crafting leves exp yield reduced. Gaining half a level with one HQ turn in should not be happening. I dont mind faster leveling but this is ludicrious speed..

    Crafting in DQ2 builders is sounding more fun at the moment. And its crafting is simpler then FF14.More fun simply cause you earn recipes as you play and the game only points out where raw materials are when leading you to a new area. Rest of the time you got too hoof it and explore. Not liking the feeling at all with FF14, love all the new housing stuff though.
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    Last edited by NanaWiloh; 01-09-2022 at 07:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
    So, the amount of Expert Crafts Liam did was ~100 folds more!
    Sadly while I did do a ridiculous number, I admit I never finished the Pteranodon and didn't get all the Resplendent Tools. At some point I burnt out and dropped it, life is too short.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
    my "pentamelds" which emphasizes on Piety (just kidding... it's for spiritbonding!
    Uhm, noob question: what do you mean by "for spiritbonding"? Does gear spiritbond faster if pentamelded?
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    It does, yes.
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