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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post

    What Venat could have done with all of the knowledge at her disposal was ask of her followers to be willingly Sundered individually in order to have the requisite low aetherial concentration in their form to receive of Dynamis, and then test through that to make a team of Meteion-killers who might even be able to manipulate Dynamis at will. The Ancients had far more knowledge of all things aetherial, and if she could build the moon ship, then I see no reason why she couldn't create something to build a ship equal or greater to the Ragnarok.
    I mean we dont know what she tried before the Final Days happened. She at least managed to get some supporters. After the Final Days most of the planet was death. Only a few survived, so getting many people that would be willing to be sundered to face something at the edge of the universe would be hard. After all they need to be fighters (not every ancient is strong in that part) and withstand the utter despair of Meteions place. (And they would not be able to manipulate aether in their sundered forms anymore and its not like information about Dynamis was widespread) Even our group had a hard time. The only reason they were also able to beat her, was their experience with despair. I am not sure if any of the Ancients could truly answer any of the hard questions and doubts these death races posed.

    And this of course is all only possible if they even get there.

    If Venat had unlimited time then maybe they could have done it. But she had to work against the Zodiark supporters that planned another sacrifice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rulakir View Post
    Venat being responsible for genocide isn't even up for debate for me. Knowing the future as she did, that the sundering would create the Ascians who would spend thousands of years trying to make the world whole again, she went into it knowing billions of people would die. I have thought from the beginning anyone who has a problem with rejoinings should have a problem with the sundering.
    And if she had done nothing the Ascians would have sacrificed untold numbers of lifes to get their people back while the problem with Meteion remained and may have destroyed them later too (and nobody would even been able to be reborn because she bascially cages the souls inside her nest)

    As long as we dont really know what exactly the sundering does we (imo) cant really compare it to the rejoining. After all it could simply be that they lost their creation magic and their long lifespan. Or they lost everything down to every single memory. We dont really know.

    Rejoining next to that is pretty clear. The person dies.

    So for me at least they are not the same. Does not meant that I think that the sundering is morally right but its not on the same step as rejoining, at least not with the missing information we have right now.

    Honestly for me this story ending arc for Zodiark and Hydealyn was perfect. Both are bascially morally grey. Hydealyn had to do something bad, yet still loved her children deeply. Zodiark was created to stop the final days and saved the day but was then used by the Ascians as their god for their plan to regain what is gone by sacrifices. People wanted it to be more grey and yet of course Hydealyn must be evil now. If that is the case Zodiark is too.
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    Last edited by Alleo; 01-07-2022 at 01:20 AM.