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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayche View Post
    There are some premises that sometimes feel go unremarked. Like there is the premise of "amaurotine paradise", that everything was perfect for the ancients. Not really, there is a lot of subtext and clues hidden in side quests and the main quest, especially the coming raid series seems to be going into the direction, that their society was very good at hiding its ugly side and people kept a stiff upper lip about it. And then there is a premise that is ... all too relevant to our actual, real life world. The premise that there is a normal you can return to after an event that shocks the everyday. But since there is no actual way to relive the past, it is always impossible to return to what was. Regardless of the intent, any motivation built on the idea that if we just do this thing and that thing, we can all return to the status quo and continue from there involves some amount of self-deception.
    This has come up and has been remarked upon. It's more that said premises are considered to be irrelevant or side considerations by some of us, particularly to the sundering. If their world is less than perfect (but in relative terms I find them to be quite remarkable beings compared both to RL humans and the sundered), should they not strive to regain what they lost, even if that exact thing cannot be regained? After their star had nearly been desiccated and most of their people sacrificed to staunch it? As if many of the sundered would not desire and act towards the precise same thing? Note that the dispute between Venat and her faction and the remaining ancients was less to do with any of their imperfections, real or imagined, but more to do with the attitude she thought they should have to suffering, based on context she had and which they were not given and thus lacked.

    Also I should resist, but ... ideology motivated by return to a glorious past has ... very bad echoes to certain movements.
    Yes, much as ideology focused on discarding the past (except when it comes to using it caricatures of it to ideologically browbeat opponents), fixating on "brighter tomorrows", destroying all opposition to withering away the status quo and ushering in their own new glorious revolution, thriving on crises as pretexts for doing so, has very bad echoes to certain movements.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 01-06-2022 at 03:01 AM.