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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Speaking of Azem going MIA without siding with anyone, I feel this plot is going to be important if not THE source of Season 2 events and Season 2 Antagonists.

    The whole Azem going MIA and being a big mystery during events of Hydaelyn/Zodiark struggle even before the Final Days is rather strange and suspicious.
    There's also the fact that we have missing pieces of the puzzle here that may have to do with Azem. We have not dealt with the "roar from within the earth" that caused the transformations into Terminus back in the pre-Sundering days...a sound that was confirmed to be heard at Radz-at-Han when the transformations began. I have a feeling that's going to deal with our next big journey, and possibly with what Azem was doing. Zodiark dealt with the imbalance of aether, Hydaelyn sealed him to prevent more sacrifices and so the imbalance wouldn't return...so what caused the original imbalance, where did it come from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    We have not dealt with the "roar from within the earth" that caused the transformations into Terminus back in the pre-Sundering days...a sound that was confirmed to be heard at Radz-at-Han when the transformations began.
    That depends whether the writers intend for it to be a separate phenomenon or a strange effect of Meteion's call.

    The primary mystery with Azem right now is how they knew to tell Themis to expect us.

    That may get entirely resolved within the raid story, and all plotlines regarding the ancients wrapped up within this patch cycle, but we'll have to wait and see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    That depends whether the writers intend for it to be a separate phenomenon or a strange effect of Meteion's call.

    The primary mystery with Azem right now is how they knew to tell Themis to expect us.

    That may get entirely resolved within the raid story, and all plotlines regarding the ancients wrapped up within this patch cycle, but we'll have to wait and see.
    I honestly will not be surprised if the Roar is revealed to be caused by the final boss of the 6.0 Raid storyline. This kind of plot will end up resulting in the classic time travel plot of "the roar" was always going to happen even if WoL did not travel back in time to become involved with Pandemonium.

    If not then it maybe explained in Season 2 storyline.

    Either way, I suspect while Meteion caused the instability in the Ancient's powers that lead to the Final Days, the roar was the cause of their emotional breakdown that lead to them losing control due to paranoia.

    However, I suspect there maybe more to the story involving Dynamis to begin with since 6.0 only introduced to us the concept and that there are people researching Dynamis both during Ancient times and current time in the Source but SE did not go into details about what those research involved.

    If understanding Dynamis ends up being involved as a key factor for Season 2 then we should expect that there could be a civilization in the unknown regions that have a better understanding of Dynamis as well. After all Emet did warn us in advance the civilizations beyond Eorzea and the regions we have gone to that are located in the Unknown regions may surprise us with how they developed both technology, magic, and theme wise.

    There could even more more technology based civilizations in the unknown regions thus we may get a actual modern day civilization or future tech theme civilization that is located in the unknown regions along with the expect more pure magic based civilizations as well.

    After all, Season 1 only covered Eorzea and locations that do make contact with Eorzea which is only 25% to 40% of the planet. We still got 75% to 60% of the planet left unexplored and we know Season 2 is about exploring those unknown regions as Emet spoiled to us.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 01-06-2022 at 12:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    There's also the fact that we have missing pieces of the puzzle here that may have to do with Azem. We have not dealt with the "roar from within the earth" that caused the transformations into Terminus back in the pre-Sundering days...a sound that was confirmed to be heard at Radz-at-Han when the transformations began. I have a feeling that's going to deal with our next big journey, and possibly with what Azem was doing. Zodiark dealt with the imbalance of aether, Hydaelyn sealed him to prevent more sacrifices and so the imbalance wouldn't return...so what caused the original imbalance, where did it come from?
    That has been answered already in Endwalker, the Sound/roar was all but literally stated to be due to Meteion’s Song of Oblivion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theozilla View Post
    That has been answered already in Endwalker, the Sound/roar was all but literally stated to be due to Meteion’s Song of Oblivion.
    Yeah, the 'sound beneath the earth' was sort of a symptom of the Ancients not really having means to interact with dynamis. Because they had no real grasp on what was happening, and had something of a geocentric, overly-rational worldview, the first thing to go wrong got misconstrued as the cause. It's a bit like if your car broke down, and you blamed it on the smoke that started coming out of the engine before it stopped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    We have not dealt with the "roar from within the earth" that caused the transformations into Terminus back in the pre-Sundering days...a sound that was confirmed to be heard at Radz-at-Han when the transformations began.
    I thought that sound was Meteion's song?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaBigDorf View Post
    I thought that sound was Meteion's song?
    We have no idea what the Sound actually was. Meteion's "song" was just a blast of invisible intangible energy from space, that doesn't explain why there would be a horrible screech coming from inside the planet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veloran View Post
    We have no idea what the Sound actually was. Meteion's "song" was just a blast of invisible intangible energy from space, that doesn't explain why there would be a horrible screech coming from inside the planet.
    I mean we do have an event we know of to draw parallels to, it doesn't mean they are similar/the same but they could be, when it comes to Thavnair. It is said that when Khalzahl became Svarbhanu in Radz-at-han that he let out a terrible sound, one that presumably could also have something to do with the ancients, if no one was left alive who saw the creation of the initial corrupted creation magic creature then those nearby who only hear the roar would think that the source. Or that might not be the case, but it is interesting to think about.
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