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    Player Haseno's Avatar
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    Haseno Ve'uriken
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vonleo View Post
    A lot of people were expecting nerfs to Reaper/Sage and Warriors. Reaper was barely touched and everything else was left alone.
    Why would they nerf Sage? Currently in high-end content they're 4th in Healing Per Second. Scholar beats Sage by 1%.
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    Avarnia Corthal
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    Adamantoise
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Haseno View Post
    Why would they nerf Sage? Currently in high-end content they're 4th in Healing Per Second. Scholar beats Sage by 1%.
    hps is a terrible measure of healing power anyway since its all spikes rather than constant healing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    hps is a terrible measure of healing power anyway since its all spikes rather than constant healing
    HPS isn't a terrible measure. HPS just doesn't add context to all situations where healing is necessary. The fact remains that Sage and their healing potential is not broken. They feel more powerful than they actually are because of how Eukrasia functions by turning your spells into improved instant-cast abilities. Being able to bypass cast-times is amazing, but the Sage is still restricted to GCD cooldowns and oGCD abilities the same as Scholar.

    The skill ceiling for Sage and Scholar are both high. Scholar to an even greater amount.
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    Liam Harper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haseno View Post
    HPS isn't a terrible measure.
    HPS is absolutely a terrible measure. The messier a run and the less mitigation your group uses, the more you need to heal and the better your HPS. If a WHM spams Cure III immediately when damage happens and a Sage lets their HoT's and oGCD's do the work, the Sage will have bad HPS and the WHM won't. Many top healers will end a run with grey logs on healing, despite 0 deaths, simply because the group played efficiently. Sage has quite a lot of free oGCD's and can heal for free for longer before being forced to dip into GCD's.

    Not saying Sage needs a nerf though, SCH and AST are comparatively more than fine when it comes to heal toolkit. If anything WHM needs a buff, because it's far behind.
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Haseno View Post
    Why would they nerf Sage? Currently in high-end content they're 4th in Healing Per Second. Scholar beats Sage by 1%.
    So the shield healers, whose gimmick is preventing damage, are behind the pure healers, whose gimmick is restoring damage, when it comes to restoring damage. Um......
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    So the shield healers, whose gimmick is preventing damage, are behind the pure healers, whose gimmick is restoring damage, when it comes to restoring damage. Um......
    Yes, healers are balanced right now with the exception of some bad changes to White Mage. The Thin Air Nerf and the Lilybell only working when the White Mage himself takes damage are horrific for the White Mage.
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