Let's talk about Zenos *****Spoilers******

[Neotempest]

Here is something I found interesting digging more into who can help a clinically depressed person.

https://www.helpguide.org/articles/d...depression.htm

Look for support from people who make you feel safe and cared for. The person you talk to doesn’t have to be able to fix you; they just need to be a good listener—someone who’ll listen attentively and compassionately without being distracted or judging you.

If there is one thing the WoL is good at, that doesn't need the title of WoL is they are a good listener. The very trope we like to point at for our character in ffxiv that is memed about in the community, is the very thing Zenos would consider as a quality for a friend.

[ElizanderNorisse]

I have a love and hate relationship with him lol. I think he’s a good and memorable antagonist.

[MoonKibbles]

Unlike dynamic characters in storytelling, static characters don't change at all, their personality and beliefs never waver from the moment they're created. Zenos is one such person.

I didn't understand his obsession for the ultimate battle at first, but the last fight with him was both crazy thrilling and amazing. We were smashed and ran to the ground, but stood up just to beat each others' faces again and again with our lives on the line. It was then that I realized that this fun was what Zenos sought all along.

What I wanted to say is, that last battle with him was fun for you, was it not? It's the same for him.

[lalin]

endwalker was all about the meaning of being alive and they kept repeating this question , why are we alive ? and i think all the reasons that the scions gave were just bs in my opinion ... it was depressing and made me force my way through the msq until the last fight with zenos it was the only (fun) moment through the entire expansion . i think his reasoning for living is kinda understandable to just have fun ? (sorry for my english also i am not good with words but i hope you get my point)

[KitKatnip]

I'm still not completely convinced that Zenos is dead. He did come back from the dead before to inhabit his original body, much like an Asciaen come to think of it.

Sure we fought him at the edge of the universe and we barely survived the battle... but no one ever checked Zenos for a pulse. We just all assume he died because he finally stopped getting up to fight. Did we kill him or did we knock him out?

[Larirawiel]

Sure we fought him at the edge of the universe and we barely survived the battle... but no one ever checked Zenos for a pulse. We just all assume he died because he finally stopped getting up to fight. Did we kill him or did we knock him out?

He did not breathe in the end anymore. So i assume, he is dead.

Cheers

[MagiusNecros]

Zenos had some Big Bowser Nosferatu Zodd JoJo's Bizarre Adventure energy and was probably the most engaging thing to fight in the xpac. And he talks to you as a person and not because you are a hero.

Zenos is all about making your own way, something that the WoL resonates with on a high level. The Scions cling to the WoL to solve their every problem.

It's about time the Scions solve their own problems and the WoL get back to what they like which is to be an Adventurer by Trade and not tied down by the Scions or any of the nations.

[Abomination713]

Zeno's can't die since he can body hop and we didn't destroy his soul or capture it. I guess SE forgot that as it completely ruins the final fight and impact of it once you remember this. Lets not forget that Garlemald has cloning technology so Zeno's can always have another body of his ready to swap to (as Emet-Selch did). He'll be back in the 6.1 as some big surprise.

[Misutoraru]

I have a love and hate relationship with him lol. I think he’s a good and memorable antagonist.

SE successful salvage Zenos, he was so bland and shallow in SB. In EW his character development are so much deeper and better than fandaniel.