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    Quote Originally Posted by Yubie View Post
    Its so tiresome that not only do people like you exist but there are people who share this mindset.

    We can arbitrarily make it so red mages cant use embolden or magik barrier while a dual cast proc is active. And while it doesnt make the job harder, its something that exist to be annoying with literally 0 gameplay benefit.

    This entire interaction exist because SE shitty coding stop supporting this kind of stuff ffs
    What's your actual counter argument to how it works now? Radiant Aegis lasts long enough for Bahamut, Phoenix, Titan, Ifrit, and Garuda.

    Why would it need to work different? Even if it did work without Carbuncle we'd literally use it the same way.

    There's no reason to belive this is a limitation on their coding since it very purposely is locked to Carbuncle, not just some ability like Embolden.
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    Minati Illu
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCupOfBrew View Post
    What's your actual counter argument to how it works now? Radiant Aegis lasts long enough for Bahamut, Phoenix, Titan, Ifrit, and Garuda.

    Why would it need to work different? Even if it did work without Carbuncle we'd literally use it the same way.

    There's no reason to belive this is a limitation on their coding since it very purposely is locked to Carbuncle, not just some ability like Embolden.
    We want to use Searing Light before Bahamut as it is our main burst window, at low Spell Speed, this is not an issue since we'll get Bahamut every 2 minutes. This is an issue when we do have some Spell Speed : do we delay Bahamut by a couple of seconds and risk losing 1 use over the course of a fight or do we delay Searing Light by 15 seconds and get it completely out of sync with other raid buffs ? Searing is 30s long, right, but if we can't use it on time and use it when everybody's burst is over instead, it loses a lot of value.

    But then you could just tell me "stop being dumb, don't build SpS". Which used to be true when SMN didn't benefit from SpS, but now almost all our kit scales with it. More SpS > more Bahamut and Phoenix > more primal summons. And it has also the benefit of making SMN's and BLM's gear compatible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megguido View Post
    We want to use Searing Light before Bahamut as it is our main burst window, at low Spell Speed, this is not an issue since we'll get Bahamut every 2 minutes. This is an issue when we do have some Spell Speed : do we delay Bahamut by a couple of seconds and risk losing 1 use over the course of a fight or do we delay Searing Light by 15 seconds and get it completely out of sync with other raid buffs ? Searing is 30s long, right, but if we can't use it on time and use it when everybody's burst is over instead, it loses a lot of value.

    But then you could just tell me "stop being dumb, don't build SpS". Which used to be true when SMN didn't benefit from SpS, but now almost all our kit scales with it. More SpS > more Bahamut and Phoenix > more primal summons. And it has also the benefit of making SMN's and BLM's gear compatible.
    I'm not gonna argue with you on much here, but I will say that while on paper more SpS looks fine, having too much ends up with you drifting out of raid buff windows. Which... is no bueno. It actually is more beneficial to build with lower SpS in mind.
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    Off-Topic Discussion Megathread: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/434886-Off-Topic-Discussion-Megathread
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    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    I'm not gonna argue with you on much here, but I will say that while on paper more SpS looks fine, having too much ends up with you drifting out of raid buff windows. Which... is no bueno. It actually is more beneficial to build with lower SpS in mind.
    True ! Also the issue isn't new, it was already there with the 110s rotation back in ShB where we could either delay our trances to get Devotion in time, or rush them to get one more use.
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