Jobs and Class, I am nervous now.

[NoctisUmbra]

Reasonable doubt, Wynn. That's what we have. Reasonable doubt of the validity of the information in that spellcasting vid.

We're not assuming the info in the spellcasting vid is wrong. Assuming it is wrong is just as bad as assuming it is right.

When you show your comprehension of that simple notion, perhaps we can go somewhere from there. Until then, keep yawning lol

[Isaaru]

It's circular because you are relying on the proposition that all SE videos, past or future, do not accurately represent damage (or whatever). You assume that that point is proven, which it can never be, and then use that to base your argument on. That is the very definition of circular logic.

The idea that humans evolved from apes is not proven, but it is based off of the ideology of evolution. This is circular logic, but also a widely accepted concept. If we assumed that humans evolved from nothing because we think it doesn't look that way then that would be a poor way of supporting your theory. I'm sure I do not need to relate this to the argument at hand.

[Wynn]

The idea that humans evolved from apes is not proven, but it is based off of the ideology of evolution. This is circular logic, but also a widely accepted concept. If we assumed that humans evolved from nothing because we think it doesn't look that way then that would be a poor way of supporting your theory. I'm sure I do not need to relate this to the argument at hand.

That's why evolution is a theory not a fact. Note, I'm not arguing evolution is not correct, just that it is not fact, just theory of what most likely happened and will continue to happen.

[Wynn]

Reasonable doubt, Wynn. That's what we have. Reasonable doubt of the validity of the information in that spellcasting vid.

We're not assuming the info in the spellcasting vid is wrong. Assuming it is wrong is just as bad as assuming it is right.

When you show your comprehension of that simple notion, perhaps we can go somewhere from there. Until then, keep yawning lol

I'm pretty sure I have same opinion as you as I've been stating this very point for the past few pages.

Also please understand, that the only stance I have here is that OP raises logical questions based on the information and they should be answered. That is all and I stand by that statement.

[Holy_Dragoon]

Last time I responded to this thread, there was still meaningful discussion. What in Eorzea happened? The last 60 posts or so arguing the validity of the demonstration video?

Either Wynn really does believe what he is saying (totally possible depending on how you view things), or you all have been severely trolled and this thread should be closed. Thank you for the read though guys.

[Wynn]

Last time I responded to this thread, there was still meaningful discussion. What in Eorzea happened? The last 60 posts or so arguing the validity of the demonstration video?

Either Wynn really does believe what he is saying, or you all have been severely trolled and this thread should be closed. Thank you for the read though guys.

Really?

What is so hard to understand?

OP looked at the info, inferred information from it, asked questions. People jumped on him for it. I stepped in and said hold on what he's asking is logical and there is nothing wrong with asking.

Why wouldn't I believe that? Why wouldn't you?

[NoctisUmbra]

I'm pretty sure I have same opinion as you as I've been stating this very point for the past few pages.

Also please understand, that the only stance I have here is that OP raises logical questions based on the information and they should be answered. That is all and I stand by that statement.

The problem is that the questions are not logical when based on information that is not credible.

As for his main concerns, about BLM not being any different/better than THM, they have already answered that in the job system notes by stating that jobs will have different parameters from classes. We know they aren't going to be the same, and judging by the role that BLM is meant to fill, there's nowhere to go but up.

[Holy_Dragoon]

Really?

What is so hard to understand?

OP looked at the info, inferred information from it, asked questions. People jumped on him for it. I stepped in and said hold on what he's asking is logical and there is nothing wrong with asking.

Why wouldn't I believe that? Why wouldn't you?

edited my post before you replied, should clear it up a bit.

[NoctisUmbra]

Really?

What is so hard to understand?

OP looked at the info, inferred information from it, asked questions. People jumped on him for it. I stepped in and said hold on what he's asking is logical and there is nothing wrong with asking.

Why wouldn't I believe that? Why wouldn't you?

OP looked at the info, inferred information from it, asked questions. People informed him that the information in that video is not credible and demonstrated how there is very reasonable doubt over its validity and suggested he wait a couple more days until the patch hits.

[Isaaru]

That's why evolution is a theory not a fact. Note, I'm not arguing evolution is not correct, just that it is not fact, just theory of what most likely happened and will continue to happen.

I never said it was fact anywhere, you illogically assumed it. I was just providing evidence that expecting the video to have accurate numbers is illogical. You decided to add in fact to the mix.