Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon View Post
Also adding on to 5. in my post above. I really really am hesitant to put that in some morally grey with "better for everyone" I'm not saying Sundering itself for the plan to work out is bad, but I really question the easy morality of saying if it's not "murder" then it's better

It's like people don't know or remember the whole history of lobotomy. I mean we're basically mind wiped, possibly put into immediate danger/death in sundering. Had our bodies messed without consent. If someone said "well at least you were raped instead of murdered" that person would get a swift punch in the face and baby maker :P
I'm so glad you pointed this out because this is actually my main issue with the sundering. In fact, it's my whole issue with both sides of the debate. In both cases it seems to boil down to one person or a tiny group of people deciding the fates of everyone else on their own. I think I may be coming at this from a different perspective because one of the most important things to me is individual autonomy and from the very beginning of this game I feel like I've hardly had any. I log in and a crystal is already trying to guide me and then I have to join a group called the scions which I never cared to do in the first place. My character never wanted to be tied down to or associated with one single group. Then later on in HW I get told this whole story about light and dark being one at the beginning but then dark became corrupted and wanted power and now it's up to me to make sure evil doesn't win...but then it's later revealed that there's way more to the story and it's not at all a black and white situation like it was presented to me.

The whole argument that Venat had to do what she did doesn't fly with me because in the end it comes down to CHOICE. And the ancients' choice and autonomy was taken away from them by force. It doesn't matter if I don't agree with someone about their choices. I can't then go and take over their body, mutilate them, erase their memories and give them all a slow cancer that eventually kills them "for the greater good."

And so the opposite is also true for me - the last of the unsundered don't get to then take mine and everyone else's choice away by rejoining everything. How about we sit down and talk about everything without the scions trying to divert my attention to another area or fetch quest? I wanted to talk to Emet and Elidibus a lot more and then if at the end of all the talking and debate we still can't reach any kind of common ground then ok let's fight. Either way, pretty much the whole time I've felt like our character has been treated like a tool for Hydaelyn's side when I never wanted to be on anyone's side but my own.